...and that too is perfectly believable.
...and that too is perfectly believable.
don wrote in news:GuqdnVYjY6b2t9zWnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@forethought.net:
in intolerance for voicing differing opinions. IOW,anti free-speech.
-- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com
Yes, and yelling FIRE in a movie theater is also free speech.
don
Jim, Did you ever see this? What does it say about liberal agenda?
Wrong.
I _am_ that old. I also had polio, just like FDR... but I survived. ...Jim Thompson
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krw wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
Well,it IS "free speech",it's just that there are consequences if someone gets hurt as a result of your action. It's like libel;you -can- say bad things about people,but you also can be held liable if it's ruled you libeled them.
(in earlier days,saying bad things about people could result in a duel! People were more polite back then...)
There's no law that says you can't yell "fire" in a theater.
"free speech" is about being able to voice one's opinions in public without government interference or punishment.
see,if "don" doesn't agree with what someone says,he wants that person censored,but expects that HIS opinions must be allowed and tolerated.
-- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com
Jim Thompson wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:
that "economic bill of rights" is just socialist garbage.
-- Jim Yanik jyanik at localnet dot com
You've read something that hasn't yet been written? Wow! Will wonders never cease.
The devil is in the details, which haven't been negotiated between House and Senate versions yet. Until then, we're all discussing hypotheticals, based upon what the pundits are saying. I'm addressing the (rather bizarre) points made by a YouTube video. I don't know what you are reading.
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True, though each chamber's bill is out and readable (despite being unreadable, and changing every minute).
That's what we're reduced to since the negotiations and give-aways are being worked out in secret. They only whip it out at vote-time, just to be sure no one voting knows what's in it. A pig in a poke.
Latest: A 40% tax on policies with annual premiums over 8-ish k for an individual, 20-something for a family, exact figure being negotiated.
Exception: Union members and government workers are exempt.
IOW, you're compelled to purchase coverage under penalty of law, but not too much coverage--that wouldn't be fair, unless you're unionized or civil service, then it's fair.
-- Cheers, James Arthur
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Laws are like sausages, it is better not to see them being made.
-- Paul Hovnanian mailto: snipped-for-privacy@Hovnanian.com
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It is in the language passed by the house. It is in the language passed by the senate.
In the certified versions from thomas.gov.
What else do you need?
That is so wrong on so many levels. The bright sunshine of public=20 processes is what is really needed. It is a wonderful disinfectant.
Just like the way W created laws by presidential decree instead of having congress and the senate debate those issues.
All presidents have their day in the darkness.
don
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