a musing

It just returned everything to approximately where it was.

Don

I've always wondered what it was like from the point of view of particles inside the big bang... my guess would be it would feel exactly like now to 'them'. It is only as we look back that it seems hot and exciting, with our cold, slow perspective (like remembering a high school romance?).

After all, all the energy was right there, inside all the space. Just like now.

Suppose the speed of light was changing, and that change was what caused the 'red shift' that implies the big bang. So, the astrophysicists would be projecting back into infinitely longer time than they expect, based on believing c to be constant, when really it was slowing, leading to seemingly larger distances.

And virtual particles do not?

But then, it depends on if it came from somewhere else so the books (could) stay balanced.

And then the Conservation Principles have never been derived from something more fundamental.

The most I've ever heard of is deriving them from Mathematical Symmetries.

Robert

If you're a big enough bang, don't you get to make your own rules?

Bob

It's the point at which the laws of physics as they exist started to apply. There were probably other rules before that, which astroarchaeologists may be able to partly ascertain in the future. Perhaps by examining the inhomogenieties in the residual big- bang radiation, or other oddities like why there's lots of matter and little antimatter.

Paul Burke

We wouldn't need AD, BC, BCE, or Ma; just ABB.

John

Under current theories, the universe is just the sort of thing that happens now and then.

OR

....then God said ....

You think the universe should have waited until Dec 2, 1970 to start? I think we'd still be cold (or hot, depending on how you look at it).

Only because it went off before the law of conservation was passed - if it had just waited.....

David

John Lark> The Big Bang must have been one whale of a violation of Conservation

whale .... but not wail

...... from something the size of a pin head

I somehow think the energy and other stuff is preserved, if not, it could as well have stayed in the box awaiting a better time.

Rene

Descartes for the touchy-feely.

Well, it _HAD TO_ have started sometime before March 3, 1949, because that's when I came into existence. And I do know I exist, because I can feel it.

Cheers! Rich

She _WAS_ there, but the big bang blasted her into unconsciousness, and She has been trying to reconstitute herself from the billions and billions of subatomic particles and photons and quarks and crap that she was fragmented into in the Original Explosion.

Actually, it's The Mother's desire for Wholeness that has been driving evolution.

"It is difficult to communicate in words the intensity and depth of the shock and outrage that was felt all throughout the Will of Original Heart when my Light revved up so much that it blew us apart from each other, and blew her to fragments. There had never in all eternity been even a small amount of displeasure, and pain was completely unknown to us except as an abstract experience that could be only imagined, but never felt.

"Then suddenly, without any way to know what it would be like, we experienced the first and most intense pain, shock and horror possible. But the horror didn't stop, nor did the pain. And the shock is still present everywhere. In one instant we went from the most blissfully happy and rapturous Love in our eternal union of and as Original Heart... to the worst possible nightmare of pain, suffering, loss, remorse and eternal damnation...."

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Actually, it is the arrogance of the original Big Banger (and his idea that it was "right" for him him to "make the rules") that is the cause of all of the pain and suffering that so many people are trapped in today.

Not neccessarily. Gravitational energy is negative (because it takes energy to separate masses). If you add up all the negative gravitational energy, it can balance the positive mass-energy of the matter.

Or, maybe there was another universe made out of some exotic matter with negative energy...

Or, maybe the universe is like a virtual particle.

One wonders if when the Big Bang went off, and there was no woman to hear, did it still mess up a nice clean universe?

David