Protel vs Dxdesigner

Continuing with the previous question:

Protel 2004 costs approx $7,800.

I received the folllwing quotation from Mentor graphics, and am trying to compare features.

Quote 1 : Power Suite 055 - for $4,485, including PowerPCB 085SP layout package with On-Line DRC, Automatic dimensioning, 6250 connection limit Dynamic Route Editor, GerberView-II, PowerLogic and cross probing.

Quote 2: PowerSuite 085- for $7995, Includes PowerPCB 085SP layout package with On-Line DRC, Automatic dimensioning, 6250 connection limit Dynamic Route Editor, GerberView-II, PowerLogic and cross probing.

Quote 3: PowerSuite 160 $ 19,995 Includes PowerPCB 155SP layout software with Unlimited Dynamic Route Editor, Extended Rules, ACT's ECAM-II software for fabrication, PowerLogic and cross probing.

How do the above quotations compare with Protel in features?

Thanks

Any reason to use DsDesigner ( and PADS) rather then Protel?

Unless you do work that means you have to have a compatible system with Ds Designer, PADS, or Protel I would touch these products. They're pricey and difficult to use in my experience. I use Pulsonix

- a much better system, easy to use, and the price is about right. You can get a demo on

Prescott

No. Protel is easier to use, and in my experience more acceptable to a wider group of customers and suppliers.

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What an odd message! Do you mean Protel is easier to use than DsDesigner or easier than Pulsonix? I'd agree Protel is easier than DsDesigner but certainly not easier than Pulsonix. I've used PADS, Protel, OrCAD, Easy-PC and now use a Pulsonix license, so I think I know what I'm talking about...

Also, "more acceptable to a wider group of customers and suppliers".... what does this mean? What customers? What suppliers? CAD systems rarely have to interface with supplier's systems. If "suppliers" means board manufacturers they all accept standard industry formats: Gerber or ODB++. Being acceptable to "customers" is only relavent if he is running a bureau operation. If this is the case I'd say there's probably more PADS customers than Protel.

Perhaps you could be more explicit...

Prescott

unless your boss tells you otherwise.. its best not to change unless forced to with a pointed stick.

Simon

I find it to be so.

Your comments are also very strange!

I'm glad you are comfortable with your opine, I do disagree.

I have used dozens of CAD packages, I also am comfortable with my opine. I tried Pulsonic, and was unimpressed.

Services are customarily sold to customers, and built (fabed) By suppliers.

??? Always must interface with the tools used!

I own a Service company and I use Orcad and Protel. (Several versions of each.) I have only had one inquiry for PADS, and they were willing to accept anything "equal" so I gave them Protel.

I suddenly realised why your answers are so odd and out of context with the questions - no disrespect, but English isn't your first language is it..?

Anyway, we now know you're running a service bureau with Protel and OrCAD. Hence, you're bound to be pushing these tools. So, whatever the question the answer from you is Protel, right?

Also, "Clarence" it's "Pulsonix" not "Pulsonic"

Prescott

However I am currently using Orcad and Protel for what I feel are good reasons.

Oh brother! Clarence, your English grammar gets worse every message. Are you using a computerised language translator by any chance?

Prescott

English! With which You also seem to have a problem! No disrespect intended.

I do not "push" anything. I am very familiar with them and like the way they work. No I have also used "Veri-Best," "EE-Designer," "Cell," "Vanguard," "Pads," and several other packages. However I am currently using Orcad and Protel for what I feel are good reasons.

Look at your keyboard. I believe you will find the "C" and "X" keys are adjacent. The spelling check doesn't like either one!

I am certainly 'NOT' YOUR brother, YOU are just A jerk!

Plonk!

Here we go... yet again...hopefully this approach will keep up, so that Clarence (and Macon) will kill file everyone, where upon none of us will see their posts if they don't actually initiate any.

Kevin Aylward snipped-for-privacy@anasoft.co.uk

Fear not, it's coming to an end here. This is clear evidence of a computerised translation. Clarence's system interprets Oh brother! as an appeal to join my family. Whereas of course it's an expression of exasperation.

Maybe the same system chants a subliminal mantra: "Protel is the answer, Protel is the answer...." I think Clarence answers Protel to any question....

Is there a meaning to life? - Protel Is there a god? - Protel Will Bush be re-elected? - Protel

Prescott

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