What happens when solar power is cheaper than grid power?
Jul 06, 2012 245 Replies
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keithr
In a diesel electric locomotive, the electric part is just the transmission. It is simply used so that the diesel can run at a constant speed for maximum efficiency. There are/have been diesel hydraulic locomotives where the hydraulics did the same job as the generator and motor in the diesel electric, but they needed more maintenance.
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Graham Cooper
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Graham Cooper
I think we're in agreement, the battery is nowhere near capacity to run in electric mode independently.
More of a capacitor. Like the Wright Brother first "plane".
Some models are using solar cells on the roof so it doesn't kick in the petrol engine every time you switch the car's air conditioner on!
Herc
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Graham Cooper
Keep researching you mortgage payer you!
Monopoly level of wealth has a very high barrier to entry.
Business capital / expenditure / competitive edge is based on a all or nothing system of increasing capital on credit.
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Bruce Varley
Yes, just one of the legion of market failures that are endemic in the energy market. It'll get squeezed out if renewables become more dominant.
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Clocky
That's a truck, not a car.
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Clocky
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We were talking about cars, you know, vehicles designed to carry passengers.
A couple of minutes towing a load on the back of an electric truck might impress you, but unless it can do that at speed for a couple of hours it's just propaganda.
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Clocky
Trevor buys into hype a little too readily.
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Sylvia Else
That's all very well, but you've been making these sorts of claims for... well, it seels like years.
No doubt you can always find a rationalisation to explain why the huge wealth hasn't reached your bank account quite yet, but doesn't it seem odd to you that you have to keep finding rationalisations?
Sylvia.
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Graham Cooper
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Sylvia Else
It wouldn't be, if you were actually getting it. But I predict that in a couple of months, when I enquire after the $40,000 you should have earned, there will be yet another reason offered for its nonexistence. I expect you don't believe that. I'll post citing this posting when the time comes. When that happens, perhaps you'll finally start to wonder how I could have predicted this so accurately.
Perhaps. But you probably won't.
Sylvia.
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Clocky
You're getting scammed. Any money you are paying is money lost to a scam, you're not employing anyone, they are milking you.
What a numpty you are.
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all solar power systems.
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profit to the lessor.
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lying electrity during
the economics of the
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CO2 per kWh than the
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anels actually simply
ient generators?
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lar panels.
solar panels with a simple
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would otherwise occur by
lers to pay more for
retailer.
is a mirage. Is it providing
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hen you buy=20
into the power
n theory) a typical
round 40km/day. That
ble energy to power
CO2 emissions. If
the results would be
ich the sun doesn't
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ient generation
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subsidised cost that is
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ricity. I'm also=20
r daytime electricity
power to the utility at
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I'm using here.
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all solar power systems.
pital, I would envisage
equipment to the
umer have=20
profit to the lessor.
mestic roof that=20
lying electrity during
the economics of the
move away from combined
apital intensive, and
CO2 per kWh than the
rgy overall (since the
r how that pans out. Is
anels actually simply
ient generators?
power is higher than
st be passed on to
uring the day will=20
lar panels.
solar panels with a simple
ason, governments still
would otherwise occur by
lers to pay more for
retailer.
is a mirage. Is it providing
utter waste of money,
roblem?
t's say you plonk a
hen you buy=20
into the power
n theory) a typical
round 40km/day. That
ble energy to power
CO2 emissions. If
the results would be
ich the sun doesn't
grid, which has to
everyone charged
ient generation
Volts are only
case, a 40km
V array=20
could be=20
willing to forgo
run it on its
s of
y
e grid at
cle
being like you.
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sometime in the next ten
subsidised cost that is
t;unsubsidised". I mean that
ut a contribution from
ricity. I'm also=20
r daytime electricity
power to the utility at
e of day.
amework is really
I'm using here.
quot;
all solar power systems.
pital, I would envisage
equipment to the
umer have=20
profit to the lessor.
mestic roof that=20
lying electrity during
the economics of the
move away from combined
apital intensive, and
CO2 per kWh than the
rgy overall (since the
r how that pans out. Is
anels actually simply
ient generators?
power is higher than
st be passed on to
uring the day will=20
lar panels.
solar panels with a simple
ason, governments still
would otherwise occur by
lers to pay more for
retailer.
is a mirage. Is it providing
utter waste of money,
roblem?
t's say you plonk a
hen you buy=20
into the power
n theory) a typical
round 40km/day. That
ble energy to power
CO2 emissions. If
the results would be
ich the sun doesn't
grid, which has to
everyone charged
ient generation
Volts are only
case, a 40km
V array=20
could be=20
willing to forgo
run it on its
s of
y
e grid at
cle
being like you.
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Especially once big oil finishes raping the rest of the oil=20 producing countries, Iran etc, they will have monopoly world wide - which you pay for by providing the tax to pay the armies to steal the resources. - orchestrated by the same people that brought you the carbon dioxide scam.
Once that happens, selective supply, fake shortages, ie total=20 control will be the go, and you will pay big time for oil.
Even if there was once perceived to be a need to deal with these harmless "emissions", its decreasing, not increasing, thanks to an increasingly awake and aware public.
And that will never come from a government, paid off scientists, or=20 environmentalists, so for a start take all the above out of the=20 equation, or things will just get worse
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sometime in the next ten
subsidised cost that is
t;unsubsidised". I mean that
ut a contribution from
ricity. I'm also=20
r daytime electricity
power to the utility at
e of day.
amework is really
I'm using here.
quot;
all solar power systems.
pital, I would envisage
equipment to the
umer have=20
profit to the lessor.
mestic roof that=20
lying electrity during
the economics of the
move away from combined
apital intensive, and
CO2 per kWh than the
rgy overall (since the
r how that pans out. Is
anels actually simply
ient generators?
power is higher than
st be passed on to
uring the day will=20
lar panels.
solar panels with a simple
ason, governments still
would otherwise occur by
lers to pay more for
retailer.
is a mirage. Is it providing
utter waste of money,
roblem?
t's say you plonk a
hen you buy=20
into the power
n theory) a typical
round 40km/day. That
ble energy to power
CO2 emissions. If
the results would be
ich the sun doesn't
grid, which has to
everyone charged
ient generation
Volts are only
case, a 40km
V array=20
could be=20
willing to forgo
run it on its
s of
y
e grid at
cle
being like you.
t, and that
other
djust
ollow
Likely see a revolution, or if that doesn't happen, or fails, a certainty w= ill be us living in 3rd world lifestyle.
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More like faked shortages to push the price up. Once the big oil monopoly = on oil is complete (thanks to fake corporate wars in the middle east - that= the public is forced to pay for), you will see massive price rises, and ot= her nasties. It will not be from oil shortages though.
Now that we have an awake and educated public who sees through this scam this is anything but "increasing" and it is about as much of a "need" (exce= pt for bankster profit)to the public as a hole in the head.
You will NEVER find this from government bodies, politicians, paid off scie= ntists, big business or anyone involved or even sympathetic to the "greenie= " movement.
Common sense thinking, you wont find that in any of these places either basically what you are saying is "we are stuffed"
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Until you can get a battery supply that can be "refilled" as fast as curren= t fuel, (including at the roadside, if the battery runs out), can go a simi= lar distance with a similar vehicle weight and carrying capacity as curren= t fuels, last as long as current engine technologies before needing battery= replacements, and cost similar amount, as well as lower or similar running= costs, you are well and truly in dream world.
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Graham Cooper
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Bob Casanova
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:26:29 -0700 (PDT), the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Graham Cooper :
Try breathing them and let us know; nitrous acid in the lungs might be quite amusing. But that's irrelevant; your claim has been refuted.
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
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Bob Casanova
On Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:18:32 -0700 (PDT), the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by Graham Cooper :
Why, do you want to emit sulfur dioxide? Anyway, nice tapdance around the fact that your claim was refuted.
Bob C.
"Evidence confirming an observation is
evidence that the observation is wrong."
- McNameless
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Graham Cooper
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What claim? exactly.
Your claim is not even listed in Wikipedia as a hurdle.
Herc
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Trevor Wilson
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**Like the Tesla Roadster? You have still not explained how a vehicle with no torgue (like the Tesla) is able to accelerate a 1.2 Tonne car to
100kph in 3.7 seconds.
**It shows that an electric automobile can possess excellent towing ability.
Trevor Wilson www.rageaudio.com.au
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Graham Cooper
It's not that bad, just setting up a weekender.
Next week I pick up my 10 Amorphous Solar Panels and 1500W inverter and can pressure clean the gutters, then connect the tank to roof and then go anywhere!
I stay at the coast in $200/nite penthouses half the time. Had a King Sized Spa this week!
but I prefer having 5 miles to the nearest neighbour so I can work on my perpetual motion and
AA Battery Powered Fridge!
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Just using a Shielded USB Cable and stuck the modem on the window!
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The OBESE GUY!
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Graham Cooper
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Why don't you run a cable to it like The Delorean?
Herc
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