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Re: New Zealand internet copyright law

"kreed"

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Absolutely shocking - the part about "proving innocence" is a very large worry, and basically wiping their arses with our legal rights.

** Nothing new in it at all.

If you get a notice for illegal parking, speeding or going through a red light - guess what ?

You get your chance to prove the notice wrong.

Similarly, if you get charged with a crime by the police - you get your day in court to prove them wrong.

Assuming that copyright infringement is considered criminal in NZ, proof beyond reasonable doubt is required once the matter hits a court or other justice tribunal. So, all any accused has to do is show that such a doubt exits in their case.

The oft quoted " presumption of innocence " is largely a myth and many folk make the error of taking the words literally.

Taken literally, it means the police would never investigate nor arrest anyone.

.... Phil

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Phil Allison
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"kreed" "Sylvia"

That last statement is the biggest load of PC crap I have read all year.

** As Sylvia will no doubt attest - is not *too often* that I post in support of her comments.

( Note use of massive understatement .... )

But you are so full of irrational shit here it would drown a million pigs.

.... Phil

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Phil Allison

So, there are bogans in NZ.

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Epsilon

On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:20:55 -0700 (PDT), kreed put finger to keyboard and composed:

I recently encountered this bizarre statement:

"Linking to the Apia Website is only permitted when authorised in writing by Apia. Please contact Apia if you would like to link to any part of the Apia Website."

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Does Australian law actually give Apia such rights?

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Franc Zabkar

Nah making a claim and testing it in law are very different entities

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atec77

"Franc Zabkar"

** Of course.

Under copyright law and illegal use of IP laws.

The T&C is very well worded and quite clear about what Apia are worried about.

..... Phil

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Phil Allison

No. They've probably latched onto a distinct issue which is where a site contains links to material that infringes copyright. In such a case the links themselves are held to facilitate copyright infringment.

I doubt Apia's wider terms of use would stand up either, given that their site does not require user's to sign up, and is not protected by a password.

Like so much IT small-print, it's a bluff.

Sylvia.

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Sylvia Else

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