Ponder this.

Not enough to turn me anti-wind, but indeed worth pondering.

I wonder whether they would have any noticable effect on fire behaviour due to the effect on wind patterns?

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Sounds like the one guy(wrote both papers) with an objective under the guidance that if you can not dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.

From what I've read, he is saying if you cover 1/3rd of the USA(to replace existing generation) in windfarms, then you'll raise the temperature by 0.24degrees Celcius. Woopee-do, they have already raised the temperature by average two degrees celcius from the activity of their airlines. there was an interesting news report after 11-09-2001 when average temperatures had dropped by two degrees when all the airlines were grounded.

I wonder what the figure is for the reduction in thermal pollution from coal, and other forms of thermsl generation.

When an paper includes crap like this; ?For wind, we found that the average power density ? meaning the rate of energy generation divided by the encompassing area of the wind plant ? was up to 100 times lower than estimates by some leading energy experts,? said Miller, who is the first author of both papers." you know they are desperate for a point.

BTW, a 1.5 degree warming of night has probable piqued the interest in a few farmers trying to grow crops that suffer from periodic frost damage. this should help the wind energy companies lease a few more farms.

You beat Trevor to the punch :)

Nah, just been reading a few related reporting sites recently. Renewable energy has been going quietly abouts its business and a few of the fossil heads are getting a bad shock. When you get a major energy retailer saying they no longer think in the concept of base loads and they are planning on idling their coal power station during the day time, you know the game is changing very fast. Plus the fact that renewables are signing long term contracts at prices better/lower than aged coal plants ever can, things have changed. If i had spare capital ATM, it would be going into battery manufacturers.