Germany identifies a secure way to deal with spam

Mar 04, 2011 20 Replies

I heard you the first time. Care to explain yourself rather than repeat yourself?

Are you suggesting that it is paranoid to suspect that governments want to spy on the citizenry for self-serving rather than altruistic ends? Or perhaps that it's paranoid to suspect that they're up to no good when it's under the name of such a good and honourable cause as cutting down on spam? (Of course, I consider both to be justified.)

Of course not. They're doing everything they can. As much as they love their security theatre which reassures their people that the bad guys are being kept out so they can win elections, they'll jump at the chance to get any data which might actually be useful for counter-terrorism. I have no doubts about that.

Actually, they do. Even if the German government already monitors all email transactions on their own ISPs, a lot will be sent via dedicated servers in datacentres in other countries or via cloud-based or web-based services so the details of emails coming and going are not transparent.

They are also unable to break the encryption. I'm not quite yet ready to swallow a conspiracy theory that the SHA-3 contest is all a sham to produce algorithms which are already broken.

So it is very difficult for Germany to monitor something like https google apps, or a company with a VPN to a mailserver in the US.

This applies to more than email, but email is a valuable point to target for intelligence if you want to make a focused effort.

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End-to-end encryption works. And they _have_ figured out to do it -- ask for the keys. I suspect it wouldn't slide in Germany though.

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