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timing,

PIC.

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In article , snipped-for-privacy@5volt.net says...>

learn to program a micro controller.

Yep. There are some problems that aren't worth thinking about. You find enough to exist, apparently.

True, more and more is done without thinking. To be truthful, more is being done with a *lot* more, using programmable logic. Do note, PICs are a *small*, simple, insignificant, corner of "programmable logic".

are old..

Yes, those stories are old and still valid.

You wrote it; it takes no thought.

learn to program a micro controller.

So I can understand my customers' requests to interface to uC's

network are old..

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Aioe.com huh?

Figures...

JF

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On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:22:33 -0600) it happened John Fields wrote in :

There is a no ifs about it that a PIC 12 .. is a cheaper, better, and faster soltion. keep your insults for yourself.

soltion.

A PIC10 can be had for 27.8 cents each in 1's at Newark. Still much cheaper than a PIC12 and even cheaper than a 7555 or 555. However, the tools set you back another $50 or more -- plus the assembly and MPLAB learning curves.

Without using any IC at all, an analog solution using a 47uF cap and a

2Mohm resistor, roughly, would include a few pennies for a BJT or two and a mosfet and a few resistors and a diode or two and provide very long delays, reliably, with sharp transitions on holding the relay without the programming tools and learning curves and even avoiding ICs, altogether.

Jon

He's not perfect--he programs in uppercase. Otherwise, yep, pretty much.

Cheers, James Arthur

On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:58:40 GMT) it happened James Arthur wrote in :

Wonder what he does with all the saved bits.

Did someone repeal Ohm's law and Maxwell's equations? How many digital circuit boards have you designed without R & C? How many circuit boards have you designed?

Absolutely.

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Goes skiing.

On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:56:04 -0600) it happened krw wrote in :

I recently gave a link to a PIC that says: 'Hello I'm Mr Ed' :-)

soltion.

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You deserve the insults, you arrogant little prick, so fuck you in your
eurotrash ass.

It\'s only cheaper, better, faster, if you\'ve climbed the learning curve
and have the tools and the programming expertise.

otherwise, for someone like the OP, who is apparently building a
one-off, a simple hardware solution is perfect.

JF

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"DIL"???

Clearly, you have no clue...

JF

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ter soltion.

Didn't mean to start a war but for my problem the solution using the

555 is way simpler. I don't have any of the pic tools or parts and while I long ago did 8 bit assembly I'm not really interested in it anymore. My delay requirement has no particular precision. I can throw the 555 solution together on a breadboard and transfer it to a board scrape in an evening.

On a sunny day (Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:19:18 -0600) it happened John Fields wrote in :

soltion.

Wow where you gona export to, and what.

He was asking about how to improve his own thing. Throwing more of the same to him does not really help him.

And especially not in future projects and more complex solutions he may want to contemplate.

As far as your insults are concerened, I will stop reading your mentally disturbed ripples for a while.

soltion.

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Trolling trolls is a hobby.

What if you troll the troll trollers ?:-)

What is that called?

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