Re: 8 Mbps over phone line!!!

Verison offers 7Mbs, I think if you can get the 3Mbs then they can do the

7Mbs over the same distance as well.

Cheers

Brighthouse offered me 40 Mbps, on a cable modem.

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On a sunny day (Thu, 13 Oct 2011 12:29:58 -0400) it happened "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in :

Cable is now 120 Mbps here, but expensive.

They are building out more fiber right now. I got that offer last year. It was about $65 more than my current bill, so it went into the trash.

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Total bullshit.

MAYBE they can get 2 or 3 Mb/s SUSTAINED RATE. All the other claims are total bullshit.

Tell the dumbass to DL a fresh distro ISO off kernel.org or other super fast pipe. HIS hooks will be the bottleneck, and NO, he will not EVER get 20Mb/s.

I HATE goddamned liars!

I get 20Mb/s over cox cable ANY given day, and I get it sustained too.

They have an even higher rate package.

Yes, and they are lying to their customer base too.

Your copper doesn't even go that fast. And even if you have fiber to the set-top, it is not bigger than a 100Mb/s hook.

So either you are blind, or they know how easy it is to bend you gullible dopes over.

A 100Mb/s T100 hook does NOT go the full rate. There is overhead.

So, a 100Mb/s connection will NOT EVER operate at 120Mb/s. You guys are being duped by the same asswipes that gave us RoHS!

On a sunny day (Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:42:17 -0400) it happened "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in :

Same here.

ADSL can give 20Mpbs up to 4k feet away from the CO.

Whether the server on the other end can provide it is beyond the scope of this subject.

Cheers

IOW, to nearly no one. It also slows when saturated, as it would be in a residential area, so even within the 4k limit, the actual attained rate is significantly less on any given day, and dog slow on many if not most. Lots of folks streaming A/V and DLing iso images and the same files getting streamed.

By dog slow, I mean that I get sustained 15Mb/s rates, and bursts, and I can even do that on two pipes at times.

Essentially DSL is lame because it has NEVER lived up to ANY of its claims.

It wouldn't surprise me if those hooks being claimed did not ALSO require a "conditioned line" which was once a commercial offering by the bells.

They are lying because they want your money. You would be better off getting satellite hooks. They are actually the fastest in the world, and will be coming online even faster soon. The headroom (link budget) is

1Gb/s per connection, but the customer doesn't actually get that rate. You see, some folks actually tell the truth about the hooks they offer for sale.

That is not because the ADSL line is slow but because the provider didn't buy enough bandwidth to serve all customers. And 20Mb/s is pushing the limits but ADSL2+ works better. When I download big files my 12MB/s line is often fully used. When it is slower then there is a rate limit on the other end.

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Nice incorrect assumption there.

You have no way of knowing if it isn't your pipe if you do not try to fill it (multiple high rate streams). For all you know, it could be (likely) slowing due to simple provider saturation.

If you see a constant download rate, it most definitely is a rate limiter on the other end. If it is a bottle neck at the provider you'll see the download rate going up and down erraticly. And slower downloads at night. But over here that is not an issue anymore. Most providers are so big that they are actually part of the internet by peering with other internet traffic exchanges.

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Your test is to DL say an Ubuntu or Fedora iso image.

You try a direct DL and note the data rate, then you grab the torrent and see what data rate it feeds. THAT is the test. Hard and fast speeds can very well be YOUR isp THROTTLING YOUR connection.

YOU do not know because YOU do not tax your hooks correctly enough to make a proper determination about it.

An ISP who is throttling connections is out of business very fast in this country. It is simply not accepted over here.

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You wouldn't even know. Period.

Ofcourse I'd know. Kids would start to complain about their online games and my downloads would slow down.

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You are truly without a clue.

Web pages used to load faster back when I had 56K dialup. I guess it's like that old saying, computer programs expand to fill available memory; a corollary would be junk and flash and ads and scriptkiddie crap expand to fill available bandwidth.

Sigh. Rich