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Driving home last night I was approaching the right turn to my street  
and there was both a car flying up behind me, and a speedo-cyclist  
zipping along near the curb fast enough such that by the time I was  
slowing down to make the turn, I couldn't judge whether I had enough  
time to make the turn safely before he crossed the intersection. So I  
slowed to a stop to wait until he cleared.

The tailgating BMW convertible driver had to jam on his brakes to avoid  
hitting me, then roared around to the left while flipping the bird. The  
cyclist passed about two seconds later and he looks and me and shouts  
"What the hell are you doing? Fuck you asshole! FUCK YOU."

Felt kind of like a no-win situation, there. I guess next time I should  
just try to avoid turning where I need to to get home if it's an  
inconvenience to anybody. Stay classy, Massachusetts...

Re: OT: Road etiquette
On 7/8/2017 5:05 AM, bitrex wrote:
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Old saw:   Boston drivers are the BEST in the country!
Proof:     How many times, today, did you ALMOST get into a wreck?
            Had those drivers NOT been so good, those "almosts" would have
            been sure things!

:>

Re: OT: Road etiquette
On 07/08/2017 09:13 AM, Don Y wrote:
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That is...a good point.

It seems there's an auto body shop on every street corner here, probably  
one of the most lucrative businesses in town. But hey! On the bright  
side that means the vehicle was repairable and so the wreck wasn't that bad



Re: OT: Road etiquette
On 07/08/2017 09:58 AM, bitrex wrote:
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Though it does seem like one of those "War is good for nation's  
economies because after cities are burned down jobs are created to  
rebuild them"-kind of things

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Hi Don,

I was down in your neck of the woods yesterday for the oldest
great-granddaughter's 3rd birthday party (Thornydale and Linda Vista
area.... 1hr, 20min drive for me).

One of these trips we ought to connect up... matching BS with faces
;-)
        
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Re: OT: Road etiquette
On 07/09/2017 12:01 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:

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I've already made an open invitation to anyone from s.e.d. who is in the  
Boston area and wants to meet up for lunch at Fogo de Chao at the Westin  
or elsewhere that it's on me. JL and George H. have RSVPed as possibles  
if/when circumstances permit. Didn't you notice? The prime rib is awesome.

Re: OT: Road etiquette
On 7/9/2017 9:31 AM, bitrex wrote:
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I suspect most of my haunts have long since closed their doors:
Legal, Joyce Chen (big & little), Elsie's, etc.  OTOH, I'm sure I could
find a little hole-in-the-wall in the North End that *I* would enjoy
(few similar choices, here).

Re: OT: Road etiquette
On 07/09/2017 01:49 PM, Don Y wrote:
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There are literally three Legal Seafoods locations just in different  
terminals of Logan Airport.

A quick Google shows that "Elsie's" did close in the mid 1990s. Never  
been there. But yeah Boston isn't a place where you'll go hungry.

Re: OT: Road etiquette
On 7/9/2017 10:55 AM, bitrex wrote:
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It's not just the *number* of eateries but, rather, the variety.
And, "density" -- you don't have to drive a long way to find something
specific.  (True as well in NYC and Chitown -- but, travel times
in those places, incl parking, is markedly longer!)

OTOH, I'd never even consider trying to order, e.g., "pastina" anywhere
but Boston.

[Its an amusing exercise to think of different "favorite foods" and where
you'd MOST like to consume them; recounting the "why" for each]

Re: OT: Road etiquette
On 07/09/2017 02:07 PM, Don Y wrote:

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Anything you want within walking distance of Boston Common (or at most a  
subway stop or two.)

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Hi Jim,

On 7/9/2017 9:01 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
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Christ, you might just as easily have said "Picacho Peak"!  :>
I suspect that's the better part of an hour's drive, for me.
(piss poor "cross town" access, here -- unless you live south
and can hop on I10).

Still, you either have a lead foot *or* are coming from the south
side of feenigs?  (it takes us over 2 hours to get into feenigs
from here)

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Have to wait a while.  I'm prepping for an offsite (probably Denver, this
time) RSN so struggling to get all my ducks in order to "take with".
Then, I'll be hosting one this Fall (probably pushed back into mid-Winter
as this current one keeps slipping -- no one wants to travel in this
heat!) so I'll have to get several prototypes working for show-and-tell.

In ~30 years (here), I still haven't wrapped my mind around the distance
issues.  Spending 20-60 minutes in a car and not leaving the city limits
(size+poor transit) just seems like a "major ordeal".  Consider you
could get from Boston to New Hampshire in (almost) comparable time!

[I think I've made that trip 6 times in my years here -- a wedding, an art
exhibit, once to visit a friend who flew in, a couple of trips to pick up
some surplus kit from a colleague... maybe a shopping trip?]

I don't know how folks can actually *commute* to feenigs.  Half a work-day
in a car, EACH day??  I think my longest commute was in Boston -- 20 minutes
on 128 (actually, a similar commute in Chitown)

[Of course, now, my commute is a few dozen *feet*...  and, virtually NO
traffic!  :> ]

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I fond that most of the low end Beemer drivers are young punks
expending most of their meager income on a BMW lease to, in bitrex'
words, "impress the broads".

They drive too fast, tail-gate and are generally really rude
pieces-a-shit.

So, since I'm driving a car probably twice the weight of theirs, I
bait them.  When they tail-gate, I slam on my magnificent anti-skid
braking system and watch them in my mirror as they flail all over the
road behind me.

When they recover, they try to pass me, even where it's illegal, while
giving me the finger... I just floor it and leave them in the dust
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Re: OT: Road etiquette
On 07/09/2017 12:44 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:

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That is a correct assessment.

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I know where the local police like to keep their speed traps on any  
given day. I just pull over about a half mile in advance, smile, and let  
them floor it on past.

Heh heh heh heh enjoy your friendly chat with Mr. Man

Re: OT: Road etiquette
On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 12:53:54 -0400, bitrex wrote:


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Not so likely to get trouble with the cops in Phoenix. Boston, OTOH, you  
can barely move for traffic cops just itching to write you a ticket.  
That's how it was when I visited the place anyway (pre-9/11) so it might  
not be so bad now. Perhaps you can tell us? You sound like the kind of  
guy who's been busted enough times to know.

Re: OT: Road etiquette
On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 20:15:13 -0000 (UTC), Cursitor Doom

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Boston sucks!  Any place inside of Route 128 I rate as Massa2shits...
outside they're pretty nice people.

New York State, somewhat the same... around the 'city', nasty types,
rude manners, rude drivers... upstate, Rochester, Syracuse, really
nice people.

(COPs around Arizona tend to be so polite it's hard to be angry...
when they stop you, you know you deserved it... when they ask, "How
fast?", I just tell them the truth... usually gets me off with a
warning ;-)
        
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Re: OT: Road etiquette
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If you force them to slow down, they'll get mad and really speed up.




Re: OT: Road etiquette
On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 18:10:45 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"

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Yep >:-}
        
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Re: OT: Road etiquette
On 7/9/2017 9:44 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
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Here, more big trucks -- with beds that have never seen any CARGO!
(why buy half a car if you're not going to use it for its intended
purpose?)

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In Chitown, it seemed like "road sheep" were the norm; folks who
would CLING to your blind spot, regardless of your speed!  Speed
up and they would match you; slow down and they'd do similarly.

Only "defense" was to slam on brakes and let them ease past you
so YOU can cling to THEIR blind spot  :>

<frown>

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Works well -- UNLESS they plow into your ass!   (Life is too short
for me to waste any of it dealing with insurance adjusters or body
shops!)

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My "driving attitude" has mellowed considerably, over the years.
I'm just "not in a rush" (few places that I *need* to arrive at on
some particular "schedule").

SWMBO is considerably more aggravated/aggravate-able when driving.
Perhaps because she spends more time at it than I (my driving
probably amounts to 50 hours ANNUALLY).  Or, maybe I can use
the time behind the wheel in ways she can't?

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Oh!  I've mellowed, too... used to be I'd run them off the road >:-}

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Re: OT: Road etiquette
On 10/07/17 02:44, Jim Thompson wrote:
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Around here ten years ago, it was pretty reliable to expect
anyone driving a BMW X5 to be a dickhead. Now, they've almost
all moved on to Audi's... the ones who can afford it. The
remaining X5 drivers are the worst kind; cut-price dickheads.

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