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If you've a) just robbed a store, b) just assaulted a police officer, breaking part of his skull, c) are 6'4" / 300lbs, and d) have already been shot four times in the right arm and shoulder, then continuing to rush the officer you just assaulted just might be a bad idea.
aking part of his skull, c) are 6'4" / 300lbs, and d) have already been sh ot four times in the right arm and shoulder, then continuing to rush the o fficer you just assaulted just might be a bad idea.
All true, but totally irrelevant since none of it seems to have anything to do with the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson.
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His crime seems to have been jay-walking.
It may have more to do with the second shooting near Ferguson on the 19th, but Jim's comment was rather unspecific.
reaking part of his skull, c) are 6'4" / 300lbs, and d) have already been shot four times in the right arm and shoulder, then continuing to rush the officer you just assaulted just might be a bad idea.
to do with the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson.
You're awfully naive--don't you recognize the obvious bias, the attempt to sell a sympathetic story rather than merely report?
For example, "1) Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson shot and killed teenager Michael Brown on Saturday, August 9"
The testimonials describe Brown as a gentle giant. The *video* from the store he just robbed shows Brown rag dolling the proprietor, stealing cigarillos that are commonly hollowed and used for drugs.
So, the strong-arm robber stealing feedstock for the drug trade is now a harmless "teenager," just out of high school and headed for college, Jim's "choir boy" transformation by the media.
Another example, "2) Ferguson is a majority-black city with an overwhelming ly white police force and city government," which has no relevance whatsoever to who did what to whom, when.
The Ezra Klein-gang provides Johnson's eye-witness account on equal or high er footing with others', but fails to mention Johnson also said Brown was shot in the back--which the autopsies show he wasn't--nor does Vox mention that Johnson was Brown's *accomplice* in the convenience store robbery. Instead , Johnson is "Brown's friend Dorian Johnson."
Here's the robbery video:
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The big guy with the red cap *is* Michael Brown, and the little guy with hi m
*is* Dorian Johnson. You see them demanding the loot, turning to leave, th en the employee trying to stop them.
Michael Brown *did* rob a convenience store 15 minutes before, *did* assaul t the officer and fracture part of the officer's skull, *was* 6'4" and
290-odd pounds, and *did* receive four "warning" shots in his right arm and shoulder before being fatally shot twice in the head, from the front.
He also struggled with the officer in the officer's patrol car, where one shot was discharged in the struggle (striking no one).
That's really the only critical fact yet to be established. If Brown was rushing the officer, it's on him. If not, it's on the officer.
Here's a highly unsympathetic witness accidentally caught on audio *at the scene*, saying Brown was running, then turned and rushed the officer, and continued rushing as the officer "dumped on" (fired at) him:
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"The police kept dumpin on him, and I'm thinking the police kept missing - he like - be like - but he kept coming toward him"
The Vox reporting is an appalling distortion, but if you're any indication, highly effective.
, but Jim's comment was rather unspecific.
Since the second person hasn't been glorified, there's no ambiguity.
reaking part of his skull, c) are 6'4" / 300lbs, and d) have already been shot four times in the right arm and shoulder, then continuing to rush the officer you just assaulted just might be a bad idea.
to do with the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson.
Lying is the stock-in-trade of the petty criminal class. No matter what act ually happened they will fabricate a story to make it seem like everything they did was justified and they were the victims. This is why no one wastes their time listening to them. Even Obama is staying out of this one, he wa sn't born yesterday and knows what the story is here.
Jay-walking means crossing the street outside of a crossing zone. Walking d own the middle of the street making drivers go around you is obstructing tr affic and not jay-walking. The "teenager" was on something, if the cop didn 't kill him, someone in the neighborhood would have. Thousands of these out
-of-control blacks are murdered in cold blood by other out-of-control black s all the time. Where is the outrage over that? There isn't any.
, but Jim's comment was rather unspecific.
No outrage there because the entire incident was captured on video.
Based on the wounds, it appears as if someone has tried to shoot a single shot in the arm with an assault rifle, but having the gun on atomistic fire by mistake. Some assault rifles have a tendency to pitch up on automatic fire, which would explain he first hits in the arm and then in the head.
Keep guessing. It's what the press does (well, that and add their own narrative, as you are). Do note that the facts aren't with you (doesn't bother the press, either).
By now, I would have expected that the local police would have produced pictures of the pistol, knife or baseball bat that the suspect would have used to threaten the police, which would have justified shooting the suspect in the arm, but at least I haven't seen such pictures on this side of the Pond.
breaking part of his skull, c) are 6'4" / 300lbs, and d) have already bee n shot four times in the right arm and shoulder, then continuing to rush t he officer you just assaulted just might be a bad idea.
g to do with the shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson.
o sell a sympathetic story rather than merely report?
l Brown on Saturday, August 9"
store he just robbed shows Brown rag dolling the proprietor, stealing cigar illos that are commonly hollowed and used for drugs.
What video? Google didn't show up anything of the sort.
If you wanted to claim that such a video existed, you needed to post a link to it.
harmless "teenager," just out of high school and headed for college,Jim's " choir boy" transformation by the media.
ngly white police force and city government," which has no relevance whatsoever to who did what to whom, when.
It's certainly odd when a majority black city has an overwhelmingly white p olice force. Since the US political system is designed to let the people wh o own the country run the country, an overwhelmingly white city government is less of a surprise. The UK has been working hard in recent decades to ge t police forces whose ethnic diversity matches the populations they police. Having an all-Protestant police force in Northern Ireland hadn't worked ou t well.
gher footing with others', but fails to mention Johnson also said Brown was shotin the back--which the autopsies show he wasn't--nor does Vox mention that Johnson was Brown's *accomplice* in the convenience store robbery. Instead , Johnson is "Brown's friend Dorian Johnson."
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Not exactly clear or detailed. The shooting was on the 9th August, the Huff ington Post article is dated on the 15th, and mentions that the alleged rob bery was not known to Darren Wilson when he shot Michael Brown.
him *is* Dorian Johnson.
Why do you think this?
the employee trying to stop them.
I see something that might fit that description, which showed up quite a wh ile after the shooting, handed over by the police force of which the guy th at did the shooting was a member.
You're awfully naive--don't you recognize the obvious bias, the attempt to sell a sympathetic story rather than merely report?
ult the officer and fracture part of the officer's skull, *was* 6'4" and 290-od d pounds, and *did* receive four "warning" shots in his right arm and shoul der before being fatally shot twice in the head, from the front.
If Michael Brown did rob a convenience store 15 minutes before the shooting , there's no suggestion that the officer who shot him knew about the robber y (if it actually happened).
The crime for which Darren Wilson claims to have been trying to arrest Mich ael Brown is unquestionably jay-walking. How he managed to screw up the arr est to the point where he feels the need to shoot the arrestee in the head, after having put four bullets into his arm and shoulder u=is of legitima te interest.
Being 6'4" and 132 kgm makes Michael Brown big - but it puts his BMI at 35.
5 so he's obese rather than muscular.
The claim about Wilson's "skull facture" - broken eye socket - is dubious
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shot was discharged in the struggle (striking no one).
That's not quite right - some witnesses claim that Wilson tried to force Br own into the police car, but there's no suggestion that Wilson succeeded in getting him into the car. There seems to have been a struggle at the polic e car, which isn't quite the same thing.
rushing the officer, it's on him. If not, it's on the officer.
Brown seems to have been jay-walking, Wilson was initially in the police ca r. Why would Brown be rushing at Wilson?
e scene*, saying Brown was running, then turned and rushed the officer, and continued rushing as the officer "dumped on" (fired at) him:
Different eye-witnesses tend to see very different things, and the longer a fter the event the more different the accounts become. When there's a lot o f public interest "eye-witness accounts" can be a lot less than reliable
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- he like - be like - but he kept coming toward him"
n, highly effective.
The Vox reporting confines itself to well-established facts. Your's doesn't .
th, but Jim's comment was rather unspecific.
Michael Brown hasn't been "glorified". You seem to want to swallow the Ferg uson's police line, which made a him out to be a villain on the basis of a very convenient video from a convenience store which appeared a few days af ter the shooting.
You're awfully naive--don't you recognize the obvious bias, the attempt to sell a sympathetic story rather than merely report?
Who even said such weapon existed? A "weapon" is irrelevant. The evidence that's come out, at least so far, is that the cop had already been severely beaten in an attempt to take his gun. Brown was retreating, then turned and charged the cop. That, alone, is reason for him to expect that his life was in danger. It doesn't matter if the only "weapon" he had on him was a Q-Tip. BTW, he was also as high as a kite and had just held up a store.
gle shot in the arm with an assault rifle, but having the gun on automatic fire by mistake. Some assault rifles have a tendency to pitch up on automat ic fire, which would explain he first hits in the arm and then in the head.
narrative, as you are). Do note that the facts aren't with you (doesn't bo ther the press, either).
pictures of the pistol, knife or baseball bat that the suspect would have u sed to threaten the police, which would have justified shooting the suspect in the arm, but at least I haven't seen such pictures on this side of the Pond.
The police eventually got around to producing a video which purports to sho w the victim robbing a convenience store some 15 minutes before the shootin g, but not even the police claim that this event (if it really happened) ha d anything to do with the shooting.
ce that's come out, at least so far, is that the cop had already been sever ely beaten in an attempt to take his gun.
"Severely beaten" is stretching the evidence. He ended up bruised after an attempt to arrest the Michael Brown for jay-walking, while Michael Brown en ded up dead. Some reports claim that cop had a fractured eye-socket (which James Arthur reported as a fractured skull) but others settle for "facial s welling".
According to some of the eye-witness stories. If you have "n" eye-witnesses you tend to have "n" stories, all somewhat different.
It's odd that an attempted arrest for jay-walking would end up with the arr estee dead.
was also as high as a kite and had just held up a store.
Some sources claim that Michael Brown was "high as kite" but I've yet to se e any forensic evidence to support this.
The "evidence" that he'd just "held up" a convenience store is a video that the police seem to have released some days after the shooting. The video s eems to show something closer to a shop-lifting than a "hold-up" and in any event suits the police story about the incident well enough to be somewhat suspect.
Krw does make this claim rather often. Anybody who doesn't share krw's opin ions is automatically wrong, lying and a fruitcake no matter how silly krw' s opinion happens to be (and he can be remarkably silly).
Er.. no. he was unarmed and shot whilst running away (accepted by most). It is unlawful and unethical to shoot someone whilst running way. The threat is gone. Period. Once he was shot at under those unlawful conditions, he surely has a right to then defend himself, if indeed that was what he did.
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