Leftist and Eoro-peon Education Experts

I need no site to tell me these things.

American educational system would care to comment on the success of Charter Schools? "

You can't really lump together European schools with the leftist indoctrina tion centers in the US because in Europe they actually do usually provide a n education. While they do indoctrinate into "socialistic" (not exactly the right term) ways, they do produce enough productive people to be fleeced f or the good of the shit biomass foisted upon their taxpayers.

te per student as do the public schools, but produce CONSISTENTLY better qu alified students than do the public schools. "

Being non-unionized is only part of it. The teacher's unions in the US are labor unions. By my definition and others', that means a bargaining group t o extort the maximum money for work produced. A trade union is one that pro vides education ongoing and sets standards so that when you hire union labo r you know what to expect. If a trade union member fall below the performan ce standards he is educated moire and if the problem is not resolve he is o ut. Also, most trade unions have not only prerequisites, but many require t hat a current member or someone connected sponsors you into it. they do not force you to join if you work somewhere after a certain number of days lik e many labor unions do. It wouild be really great if teachers' unions were trade unions, but they simply have too many in the ranks who are not qualif ied for that.

That is paid by their Parents in the form of property taxes usually. Nothin g is free.

That is not true of real world class schools, such as St. Ignatius in Cleve land, Ohio. You must qualify, just like you do for many colleges. One nice thing is that if you really excel your tuition may be picked up by a group of their alumni referred to as "fellows" IIRC. My friend's son got a free r ide. the tuition would have been between $ 8,000 and $ 10,000 per year whic h is less than many public school systems pay per head, and this is with ab solutely no subsidies whatsoever. And the result speak for themselves, look it up. Whoever didn't make it into a good college is probably dead. My fri end's son applied to a bunch of colleges, at least 8, and got accepted to t hem ALL. I bet even those charter schools don't match that. Not taking away from the fact that they are superior, but Ignatius is a cut above. And for ten grand a year or less.

I find that hard to believe, but not impossible. I wonder how this happene d, and maybe how other states could follow suit. The government is incompet ent at everything, and that is because they want to be. Keep the problem go ing so it justifies more money thrown at it. The "Amerkan" way.

Charter Schools just as in most corporations... fired and prosecuted."

Not always true.

Almost always true.

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jurb6006
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You forgot to mention the golden parachutes.

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jurb6006

worst kids. Public schools get stuck with them. "

Actually that is big issue. but where would you want your kid to go ?

They need a way to segregate the troublemakers, or just let them roam the streets until the get busted or OD on something. I do not believe we need to save every life no matter how much of a piece of shit.

What does an administrator do there ? They can be replaced by an accountant as far as I can see.

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jurb6006

So they'll "self-police."

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bitrex

He means some pasty gets fired and prosecuted while most of the actual scoundrels eject on their 50 mil golden parachutes and onto the next hustle.

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bitrex

Patsy, too. Maybe even a pasty patsy.

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bitrex

They need to be in bad kid schools, otherwise they disrupt everyone else. There are ways to teach disruptive kids, if they're treated as lost causes, change the teaching skills - but you also need a system that permits successful teaching methods, which is too often lacking here in UK.

NT

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tabbypurr

It was not required for their degree in basketweaving.

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jurb6006

So the solution is to let them disrupt the education of the "good kids" so everyone is equal ? Equally a failure ?

No, a school with strict discipline and severe punishment, and if they don't want to learn then they sit in a room with no PC, video games, Facebook, BOOM MUKUKA BOOM MUFFUKA music or anything until they learn to comply.

If they never comply then they are freed to put themselves into the prison system.

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jurb6006

I can do that in a matter of hours for a case of beer. Writing ad copy is for those who can do nothing else. :Look at the ads out there !

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jurb6006

Oh, don't be silly. It isn't about the one web page, it's about the total public relations effort. You need that when the education isn't too great, and you want folks to be enthusiastic about 'no changes needed'.

ACT reports (2013 is the latest) find Arizona students scored below national average on English, mathematics, science, and reading. It's best, when that happens, to have some rhetioric about side issues (graft and corruption) to distract the masses. PR professionals are cheaper than education, it's a tradeoff.

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whit3rd

well yeah, you need to put them with good teachers.

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Jasen Betts

I think it's worth asking the question what's the point of putting kids in school for the better part of twelve years and the public paying the cost of all those years to earn an academic credential called a "High School diploma" which the majority of employers read as materially equivalent to "Uneducated"?

If being a officially credentialed uneducated person is all you get for the time surely you don't need 12 years to do it you could probably easily un-educate kids in four.

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bitrex

Americans don't really have a problem spending tax money on public education, Americans have a problem spending tax money on racial demographics who aren't them.

If all the non-white people were ejected from the US tomorrow America would have the greatest public education system the world has ever seen, no expense would be spared.

That is to say white America is not opposed to socialism in principle, just opposed to the forms of socialism that aren't National Socialism.

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bitrex

One of the major purposes of the America primary education system is to sort the kids destined for college from the kids destined for a life in the correctional system.

It seems like a lot of time and effort to put in to accomplish a sorting procedure that could easily be accomplished at birth - it's no mystery what race and class a child's parents are.

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bitrex

(1) I was busy with a commercial Spice modeling job

(2) I think Pease's circuit is unnecessarily complex, because you rarely need an inductor that looks inductive from both ends (where does the energy need to come from situation).

(3) I tend toward "gyrator" approaches that are known stable:

Compare_Gyrator_Inductors.pdf

Vladimirs_Gyrator_Inductor.pdf

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GyratorConfigTest-SCH.pdf

GyratorDING.pdf

GyratorFilterBP.pdf

GyratorFilterNotch.pdf

GyratorFilter_A1A_Oscillator.pdf

GyratorFilters-BP-LP-HP.pdf

GyratorInductanceVsGBW.pdf

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Your mind must go faster than light with such a space warp around it.

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Tom Del Rosso

Tom Del Rosso isn't the fastest processor around.

I think bitrex is wrong about the racial component. Rich Americans disdain poor whites with the same enthusiasm as they disdain poor blacks, but it's just easier to pick out the black poor and treat them worse than their equa lly poor white counterparts (who do exist).

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you can point out that the amount spent per student is already over $20k, but it's like talking to a rock. "

It doesn't take a degree in basket weaving to realise that spending $20k pe r student across the state on average doesn't necessarily mean that each st udent gets $20k of education per head per year.

In place where education is run by an education department that covers a wh ole state or province this might more or less happen.

In a place like the US where education is run and paid for by school distri cts, the amount that gets spent depends on what the school district can col lect in property taxes. New York State seems to have 66 counties, and most of them have several school districts apiece.

Some of them are likely to spend the roughly $6k per head per year that mos t school districts spend in place like Utah, Idaho and Arizona. Others clea rly spend more. The distribution is going to to have a higher upper limit t han the $20,000 per head per year reported for Arizona, and one has to susp ect that the median is going to be a lot closer to $6k per head, and that t he average is being lifted by a few remarkably extravagant school districts .

That is the way that gross income inequality works.

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Nobody is suggesting that complete equality is the way to go - even the Sca ndinavian countries that "The Spirit Level" likes have Gini coefficients of 0.25, not zero, and plenty of places do fine (if not as well as Scandinavi a) with Gini coefficients of around 0.3 . The problem is that the US 0.47 i s rather too high.

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bill.sloman

Americans aren't a hard people to please, just ensure there's always someone lower on the totem pole to kick than they are. "Suck-up-shit-down" isn't just a Donald Trump thing it's very much an American thing.

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bitrex

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