job titles

time for a career change! "Jack Daniels Purchasing Manager" sounds appealing.

I get engineering job postings all the time, though some of those look like fun too. I heard we're about to hire a bunch more engineers soon (replacements).

Don't be fooled... They are all descriptions for the same entry-level job:

Urinal Biscuit Remover

I see a fair amount of jobs for lead engineer around here, usually all the Strategic Engagement Manager and Customer Success Intern positions are filled what they want most is the "Guy who designs and builds the thing we're selling"-guy. they offer $20k less for that position than the strategic engagement manager though it's been up on the site for two years unfilled

It does explain almost full employment. Also that the end is near ;-)

Of course real scrums are run by hookers. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Just found this: Chief Agile Officer (CAO)

Elizabeth Holmes could have used one of those. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Ha! Props!

;)

Phil "Prop forward till his knees gave out" Hobbs

I would suspect that GlassDoor is at least partly responsible for the problem: "How to Create Job Titles that Crush"

Way back in the late 1970's, when such things as job titles had a real meaning for me, I noticed an interesting trend. Rather than deal with it, US engineers were getting stuck with titles such as "Member of the Technical Staff", allegedly to reduce piracy by competing companies. At the same time across the pond, UK companies were becoming incredibly creative with their job titles because it was considered necessary to have a change of job title with every promotion. One I recall was something like "Supreme Commander of the Documentation Staff". I have no idea where the situation lies today, but hopefully these extremes have been moderated to a universally acceptable compromise.

At one point, management thought it would be a good thing to print business cards for the newly hired engineers. Rather than ask anyone for an appropriate title, HR just looked for suitable titles in the WEMA (Western Electronics Manufacturing Assoc, now AeA) pay scale report, and printed the cards. I think my title was something like "Junior Engineer in Training". This was also my first clue that I was being underpaid. After the ceremonial dumping of the entire box of cards in the management suggestion box, more appropriate titles were contrived and new business cards were issued. I wanted "Keeper of the Faith" from the "Planet of the Apes" movie, but that was vetoed by management.

This might help:

I was once an MTS, when the company introduced a Senior MTS grade. I argued against it on the grounds that either you liked the job or you didn't, and the name meant nothing (particularly over here).

I'd been conditioned by my first job in a tiny division of a large company. I started as an Assistant Engineer Grade 2, became an Assistant Engineer Grade1 after 6 months, then Assistant Engineer and Engineer at guess what intervals.

Naturally I was doing the same job all that time.

One of my friends, who was doing AI software, wanted his card to say "Applied Philosopher". While accurate, the company refused - slightly to my surprise since it was a very zany company.

That's just the 'B' ark.

Cheers

On 05/08/18 01:53, Jeff Liebermann wrote: [...]

That's a bad, bad site. It redirects me to the French equivalent, even when I try to prevent it from doing so. Censorship as bad as China! Shame!

Jeroen Belleman

Ok, I cheated and used Google Translate because my High Skool French died long ago.

I have no idea what might be wrong, so I'll guess(tm). When I post URL's, I like to strip off the tracking info, which sometimes includes a language preference. I do that because we have international readers, who usually prefer to read web sites in their native (default) language. Sometimes, that doesn't quite work right.

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We had a guy whose job title was Group Operations Director - ideas above his station ? We also had Production Assistants who abbreviated their titles to Prod Ass, which in their case was possibly apt.

Of course this is the best one I've seen .

Brian

Doncha just hate it when people say "period" or "full stop" to show that they are infallible?

Aylward doesn't exactly translate into the guardian of the ale. It's more like "noble guard": Kevin posts to this group on topics involving SPICE. If he reads this, I'm sure he'll have something to add on the matter.

There are lists available of engineering titles and job descriptions. I was skimming this list: and found two that might be suitable for my lofty position: High-Pressure Engineer Lead Engineer (or Pb Engineer) However, I still prefer Keeper of the Faith.

I've always ascribed to the ways of the Cathode Followers.

Tim