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Then, why is the fire/insurance issue "**Irrelvant"?

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**I never said it was. I said that the flammability of the house was
(irrelevant).

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Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au




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On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 15:08:05 -0800 (PST), linnix

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In such socialist societies as Australia (and coming soon to the US),
you'd better use the exact replacement and have it done by a certified
technician... otherwise no insurance coverage at all.
        
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**Idiot. EXACTLY the same situation exists in the US. And the US, like
all Western Democracies, is, in part, a socialist nation. Always has been.

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www.rageaudio.com.au


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I think the problem is your language.  You called my post irrevant
when we are agreeing on the same thing.  You called JT Idiot (He may
or may not deserve it) when he is really saying the same thing:  The
US is getting more socialist, like AU.

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On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 15:47:34 -0800 (PST), linnix

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Flattery will get you nowhere with me ;-)

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On Dec 8, 4:00A0%pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
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I am not.  Just stating the fact.  You call someone an idiot to
counter his opinion and/or discredit him.  I am countering your
flattery statement here.  In this context, you deserve to be an
idiot.

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On Thu, 8 Dec 2011 16:08:21 -0800 (PST), linnix

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You know what they say about people without a sense of humor... they
begin to look like Larkin ;-)
        
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On Dec 8, 4:29A0%pm, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...@On-My-
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Nothing wrong with that.  He is not even in this discussion.

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**Very likely a misunderstanding.


   You called my post irrevant
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**The implication was clear.

1) That Australia was a Socialist nation.
2) That the US was not.
3) That the US was becoming a Socialist nation.

I will state again:

ALL Western Democratic nations operate as Socialist states. Every single
one. Including the US. Always has done. Ever since the US Federal, State
and local governments began collecting taxation, the US has been
operating as a Socialist nation.

What JT IMAGINES is that Australia is more socialist than Australia.
That may be true for some parts of the society and less so for other
parts. In the case of the medical system, for instance, Australia enjoys
a largely socialised medical system. Australians are very happy with
that system. The US lacks a cohesive socialised medical system. As a
consequence, some 50-odd million Americans have extremely poor access to
good medical services. Additionally, some 60% of personal bankruptcies
in the US are due to medical bills. Here in Australia, no one loses
their home so they can stay alive.

And to get the issue back on topic, the US regulatory authorities have
considerable influence of what can and can not be connected to US mains
power. In the US, however, due to the low mains Voltage, there is far
less risk to consumers than there is here in Australia.

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Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



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Why is this a bad thing?  The governement won't stop you (or me) from
experimenting on the main, but would stop us from selling unsafe
products to unsuspecting customers.  Otherwise, i would have sold you
a furnace with auto relays.  Don't blame me for burning down the
house.

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**I don't consider regulation necessarily a bad thing. LACK of
regulation is, in general, far worse.

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Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au



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less risk of fatal electric shock, more risk of fire from overheating
conductors.

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FWIW, those are oft-cited misconceptions.  Media drones repeat them
without understanding their basis.

The number is ~32 million, and these are people who do not have
medical insurance.  That is not the same as "extremely poor access" to
care.  Numerically, some 10-12 million of that figure are illegal
aliens, and most of the remainder are young people who voluntarily
choose not to buy it.  Access is generally good to excellent.

60-odd % is the proportion of people who go bankrupt who, among their
other bills, also owe money to their doctors.  The number whose
medical costs *caused* their bankruptcy is a small fraction.

Last, everyone can get care.  There are countless medical programs for
the poor.

I personally have an acquaintance getting the full royal treatment,
for cancer, for nothing.  She's better than most at working the
system, but it's there for people who need it, and seek it.

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James Arthur

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I have to say that during the time that I lived in the US, the medical
care that I received was excellent and my co-payments were less than I
pay back in Australia *BUT* I had an employer paying for my medical and
pharmacy insurance. I was never quite comfortable though that, should I
have needed expensive treatment, my HMO would have the final word on
that treatment.

At to the poor, my wife used to volunteer at the emergency room at the
local hospital she had quite a few horror stories. I did my bit to fund
the programs for the poor, 5 1/2 years of maximum social security
payments that I am not going to see a penny of.

I have a friend there who is retired (not by choice) who has to spend a
fair proportion of his income on medical insurance, and, even then, when
his wife had a bad car accident, he still had some really big bills to pay.




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yes, its a wonderful feeling.  I understand over there they have draft
legislation
on the table to grab private pension funds (401K ?) and put them into
gov bonds
that will disappear as the country has its inevitble financial
collapse.

Super is a scam in my book, unless you are close to the age of getting
a payout.

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Our biggest healthcare consumer is the gov't, and the more they buy,
the higher they drive the cost--it's always easier to spend when
you're spending someone else's money.  Everything they do costs more.

I prefer competition, the same process that makes everything we do and
buy get constantly better, and cheaper.  E.g., computers.  And, that's
voluntary.  The gov't universally does the opposite--they've got the
wrong incentives and no controls.  But, whatever we do, reality
matters, not spin.  That's why I chimed in.

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James Arthur

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Competition has always been very successful in giving all of us more -
for less.
Coupled with the freedom to voluntarily buy or not buy what we want
great things have been achieved


The opposite has never worked in the public interest.


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Except for Apple...

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There are alternatives, you can voluntarily use Windows, Android,
Linux etc, even a pen and paper,
or you have the free choice to simply use nothing


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