smallest wired keyboard?

Apr 13, 2022 Last reply: 4 years ago 394 Replies

it is correct.

i don't know what bluetooth devices you've used, but they don't sound like very good ones.

what you describe is definitely not representative of bluetooth, which is *extremely* reliable.

headsets can work at fairly long distances, including between floors in a house, which is something not realistic with a cable, and would have losses due to distance if it was.

analog headphones are actually *less* reliable, many times requiring wiggling the plug to get a good connection, an issue that *can't* happen with bluetooth.

that's a different issue, except that you are exposed to far higher rfi from many other sources, namely a cellphone held to your head for a phone call, as well as tv/radio transmitters, etc.

no they don't normally have a 90 degree connector.

almost all headphone plugs protrude and can torque. it's a very common failure mode.

it's not far fetched at all.

an analog headphone jack is literally a hole in the phone where liquid and dirt can ingress.

although it's possible to make it water resistant, that is a lot more difficult than if there was no hole at all, which should be obvious.

false, nor does apple sell any protocols.

you must be thinking about microsoft, who is well known for creating their own proprietary formats such as wma and wmv for which licensing was *very* expensive.

those formats have been reverse engineered, although not perfectly. it's not unusual to have a wma/wmv file that doesn't play properly, unless it's in a microsoft player.

microsoft also created their own web protocols and modified existing ones so that netscape would not work properly, something which got them into a *lot* of legal trouble.

false. safari supports webm, however, it's a niche format that is very rarely used, which is why it was only recently added. there is almost no demand to bother. the number of sites with webm instead of mp4 is close to zero.

apple doesn't care what you do with a product once it's been purchased.

also, they will sometimes repair customer damage for free. it's not always going to happen, but it's certainly a possibility.

i know someone who bought an iphone and dropped it shortly after, causing the display to crack. he went to the apple store and told them what happened, that he was a clumsy oaf and it was entirely his fault, wanting to know how much it would cost to fix it. they said 'no charge'.

On a sunny day (Sun, 17 Apr 2022 06:53:48 -0400) it happened nospam snipped-for-privacy@nospam.invalid wrote in <170420220653484600% snipped-for-privacy@nospam.invalid:

I have heard others do what sounded like a 'break into' my bluetooth link to my TV. Also the whole pairing is a nuisance if you have more than one BT transmitter and receiver like I do.

Then there is the general security issue, not only for BT but for all wireless equipment, disaster.

On a sunny day (Sun, 17 Apr 2022 06:53:53 -0400) it happened nospam snipped-for-privacy@nospam.invalid wrote in <170420220653534903% snipped-for-privacy@nospam.invalid:

Apple was fake from the beginning, buying the name 'Apple' from the Beatles Steve Jobs went on (later) about Apple's superior processors used for nuclear research testing. I demonstrated to someone that a x86 was faster... they went Intel Jobs then also changed to Intel He was a very good salesman. But if you take the trouble to google a bit, then you will see, that even recently, Apple does a lot of dirty tricks

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Without any doubt the 68000 was a much better processor than the comparable 80386. From then on Intel took off and left Motorola behind (the 68030, 69040 never caught on commercially). But up to than IBM sold far inferior products through marketing clout.

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nospam is wrong of course™.

What makes no difference is whether the A/D and D/A for wired headphones are inside the phone or inside the Lightning or USB-C dongle. There is no difference in sound quality (unless you've purchased a junky after-market dongle).

But there are multiple differences in sound quality between wired headphones and Bluetooth headphones, depending on the phone and the headphones.

The iPhone does not yet support LDAC so high-end headphones like the Sony WF-1000XM4 will not get as high quality sound as they will on an Android device with LDAC (see

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). When using Bluetooth headphones and watching video, there is often a perceptible delay between the video and the audio, depending on both the phone and the headphones. For music, a few milliseconds of delay doesn't matter but when watching videos it does.

On Android devices, you can use the higher quality aptX HD or aptX Adaptive codecs to mostly solve this issue.

Some do, but most don't. The problem with the 90 degree plugs is that a thick phone case will often prevent them from plugging in.

And of course my iPhone did not come with either a Lightning power adapter or Lightning earpods, Apple stopped including those even on the phone models that originally included them. Nor did it include a Lightning to 3.5mm dongle, I had to buy that separately.

It's more for accidental dunkings of the phone. Of course there are IP68 phones that still have headphone jacks. My wife's old Moto X4 took a dive in our pool and was no worse for wear despite the headphone jack. She was gardening near the pool, it fell out of her pocket, and she advised me to dive in to retrieve it. But it was in a protective case which may have had a rubber plug over the headphone jack, I can't recall.

that isn't necessarily someone hacking it, which would require that someone to be *very* close, as in the next room.

it's hardly a nuisance, regardless of how many devices there are. recent bluetooth devices auto-pair simply by being close enough and powering it on, or there's a pop-up window to confirm with a tap. worst case, you type in a code *once*.

only for those who don't understand security.

yes they did. the '030 and '040 were used not only in macs, but also in many other products, including amiga, alpha, routers and more.

true.

all companies have ideas on how their products are to be used, however, that doesn't prohibit anyone from doing something else.

no they don't.

same for android and windows 10s.

microsoft originally wanted to charge money to 'upgrade' to windows 10 from 10s.

that is absolutely false.

anyone can write their own apps and use them on their own devices.

apple even stated that would *always* be the case.

not many, and there isn't any hassle either.

submitting apps to the app store does incur a fee, as it does with google and microsoft, however, if the app is any good, that will be recovered many, many, many times over. if the developer doesn't think their app is worth anything, why should users?

and didn't you just say you want to write your own apps for your own use?

the name apple came from steve jobs having lived on an apple orchard and it was alphabetically before atari, his previous employer.

the beatles sued because of apple records, however, apple was not in the music business, thus no conflict.

however, several years later, macs were being used for music (and video), so the beatles sued again, this time with a settlement.

and?

not quite.

powerpc was faster than intel, however motorola/ibm's long term goals were not where apple wanted to go. intel was, so they switched.

intel has had a *lot* of problems in recent years, a major reason why apple is transitioning to their own processors, which are both faster and vastly more power-efficient than intel.

yes, he was.

no they don't. the battery issue was to address unexpected sudden shutdowns due to aging batteries that were unable to supply the same current they could when new, something that affects all batteries.

what apple did was limit only peak demands (not the same as throttling) to avoid such shutdowns, *extending* the useful life of the device, the very opposite of what the lawsuits claim. unfortunately, sometimes it's cheaper to settle a lawsuit than litigate it.

android device makers have the same battery issue, also with sudden shutdowns, resulting in numerous lawsuits.

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The Nexus 6P was ultimately a flawed device that helped pave the way for the Google Pixel line. The problems mounted with severe battery issues plaguing owners (myself included), which fueled a class-action lawsuit against Google and Huawei filed back in 2017. Settlements from this lawsuit have slowly trickled through, with the first round of payments being sent to Nexus 6P owners in early 2020.

goalpost movement. the location isn't the issue. it's the *quality* of the audio and also the reliability from a more robust connector.

or more commonly, a *better* d/a converter than whatever fits inside a phone.

there is no difference in sound quality. the limiting factor are the transducers in the headphones, not the method it's connected.

no, because apple synchronizes the audio and video so that doesn't happen.

with ios devices, the multiple conversions can be skipped by sending aac from the sound file directly to the headphones, with one single conversion to uncompressed audio done in the headphones themselves.

Re: Re: smallest wired keyboard? By: nospam to snipped-for-privacy@f1.n.z1014 on Sun Apr 17 2022 11:56 am

Not that it matters, because Android is a depictable platform in any case, but on an Android phone you can hit a configuration switch and install extraofficial apk's to your heart's content.

Meanwhile, you need an Apple account to install your own stuff, and the free tier is only suitable for testing and does not help you install any program you want to run regularly. Unless you are fine reinstalling the same piece of software everytime the development center decides your "experimental" install is expired.

I learned it from years and years of experience.

Wow.

Utterly wrong.

Using Safari on my Mac, went here:

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'Just try it below – if you see the video, your browser is capable of playing WebM Videos.'

The video played fine.

Wrong. Apple was chosen for the company name and only much, much later, when Apple developed technology to play and make music did Apple Records object.

When PowerPC development slowed, they decided to change to Intel.

But you ignore the technical wizardry that let Motorola 68XXX software run on PowerPC and then later PowerPC software run on Intel...

...and then designing their own processors which are orders of magnitude more efficient than Intel.

Apple spends more than only 4 or 5 other companies.

Which is all just echo chambering an article that actually only says they could have made that much if they sold absolutely everyone who bought a phone a pair of earbuds and a charger.

It doesn't surprise me that you'll repeat that lie.

There's an interesting point to raise here. Cheap bluetooth headphones are going to be worse than cheap wired headphones. Many cheap Bluetooth implementations have terrible jitter on the transceiver and offer no way to compensate for transmission latency. These days as Bluetooth stacks mature and there's simple and cheap IP to "copy-paste" into designs, this is less of an issue, but for a good while the bottom of the market in wired headphones was a lot better than the bottom of the market in bluetooth headphones because of jitter and dropped packets.

I realize this is a pedantic comparison as we're basically comparing crap with crap. Unfortunately anyone who has been cursed with cheap bluetooth headphones in the past may think that issues with cheap bluetooth headphones plague more expensive/more recent bluetooth headphone designs which is where this sentiment comes from.

I had a Bluetooth to magnetic casette adapter in a car years ago and any time the car got too hot the thing would stutter like no tomorrow. But I was young, I didn't have much money, and I bought the cheapest thing I could find.

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