smallest wired keyboard?

No one has claimed that so...

...straw man.

Incorrect.

It does make it easier.

Which is an utterly irrelevant comparison.

Really?

Got any proof of that?

I know it's false.

So then they weren't disabled.

Now you've done it... Photos of old crufty books incoming!

Re: Re: smallest wired keyboard? By: nospam to snipped-for-privacy@f1.n.z1024 on Tue Apr 19 2022 12:32 pm

I have a problem with the argument because it is outright classist.

"Most" people may have wifi at home but that does not mean the wifi itself does not depend on a provider with data limits.

"Most" people I know who listens to the radio does so while doing field work in places with no Internet Coverage whatsoever.

Most of the times somebody pushes for some feature to be removed from some products because it saves him 3 bucks I figure he is a wealthy Korean Olygarch who lives surrounded by limitless technology and ignores a lot of people still uses that old feature. Usually there is no replacement offered for the feature removed that could satisfy these users.

Kind of like when banks close offices and force everybody to do their banking online, while half the province is in a situation of digital exclusion and there is no connectivity available.

Therefore I am a bit defensive with this subject.

Yes, he is incorrect. the primary reason was to encourage the purchase of AirPods. The secondary reason was to reduce manufacturing cost. I doubt if the profit from selling the dongles would even show up as a blip in their reports, even though they sold a LOT of those dongles. I recall reading an article that said the the dongle was the best selling Apple product at Best Buy for a while, see

It makes it easier, but other manufacturers have managed IP68 even with a headphone jack.

as are you.

that is absolutely false.

in fact, airpods weren't even available when the iphone 7 was released.

when they did become available, they were backordered for *months*, needing *no* encouragement whatsoever.

the majority of them were sold to people who had iphones *with* analog headphone jacks, and being a standard bluetooth device, some were sold to non-apple customers.

also wrong. the difference is negligible.

the primary reason was because space inside a phone is at a premium, and there were other features that had a much higher priority than an analog headphone jack which wasn't used by a sufficient number of people to justify keeping it.

no they don't sell a lot of those.

that article is laughable and easily refuted. first, the adapter was

Yup.

But "harder" translates into additional cost to the consumer.

The 3.5mm jack you can make water resistant is both bulkier and more expensive than one you don't have to make water resistant.

On a sunny day (Mon, 18 Apr 2022 16:12:43 -0400) it happened nospam snipped-for-privacy@nospam.invalid wrote in <180420221612438873% snipped-for-privacy@nospam.invalid:

As somebody else already pointed out, the analog jack with cable is required for FM radio reception, the headphone lead in that case functions as antenna.

On a sunny day (Mon, 18 Apr 2022 20:59:15 +0100) it happened Andy Burnelli snipped-for-privacy@nospam.com wrote in <t3kfu4$mc7$ snipped-for-privacy@gioia.aioe.org>:

And from the news TODAY:

Since no iPhone ever had FM radio...

Jesus Chris Steve. You say I'm incorrect, and then you completely agree with me.

Don't be a moron. I expect the iKooks to be morons - but I don't expect you to be one too.

Apple did it to make more money. No other reason. (All the reasons nospam claims are all completely bullshit.)

Sure Apple made money on saving costs, but they make _more_ on sales.

As your own cite showed with the billions of dollars Apple made by removing basic amenities in the box Steve, they make that money in multiple ways: a. Costs saved in shipping & design b. Money made by selling product

But it all boils down to what I said. Don't be inconsistent Steve.

I don't make every post contain all the details when I summarize what Apple's strategic plan is - which is to slowly remove functionality so that they make a profit on how you respond.

You even refuted recently that I said "year after year", where you claimed it wasn't every year, but every "few years" which again, is a ridiculous argument because it means you completely missed the main strategic point.

The point is that Apple's strategy is to remove basic functionality over time so that Apple can make more money off of you as you try to recover.

The iKooks are oblivious to this - but every _adult_ knows what Apple did:

1. First they had the industry standard 3.5mm jack
2. Then they removed it - but - they gave you an alternative
3. Then they removed that alternative - and told you it was "green"

It doesn't matter what Apple "says" is the reason because Apple's real reason is to remove functionality so that they make money off of you trying to get it back (they make _more_ on that than they do on the cost savings).

It's consistent how the iKooks deny all facts about Apple that they hate. And yet, the iKooks _never_ seem to be able to supply the facts themselves.

It's as if their _entire_ belief system is _comopletely_ imaginary.

They _believe_ that it's perfectly reasonable that Apple expects you to live as if you were born in the slums, where you are expected by Apple to share your old slow accessories among all your family members such that only one of you can charge your phone at a time overnight.

And nospam then claims that Apple didn't do it solely for the money?

What estimates does nospam have to refute the recently reported 6.5 billion dollars Apple saved on costs by removing the accessories from the box?

None?

And what estimates does nospam have for the further billions of dollars in _increased sales_ of accessories Apple directly garnered by forcing upon consumers a new buying decision that never needed to be made prior?

Again none? Bear in mind, NOBODY wants to share old decrepit chargers or AirPods.

HINT: *AirPods alone are a 20 billion dollar business for Apple.*

REFERENCES:

On a sunny day (Mon, 18 Apr 2022 23:01:04 -0700) it happened Alan snipped-for-privacy@nope.com wrote in <t3lj70$f8e$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:

Really? How bad, no radio in an emergency 'THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING HIDE UNDER THE TABLE AND LISTEN FOR 100.1MHz' sort of thing :-) 'No radio' is an other no-no to ever buy Apple, Sometimes there is good music on FM. I even have some Chinese old phone that could show analog TV when it was still here.

Its not 'as if', it *is*. We all know these sorts of people. They dint know how to verify any knowledge for themselves so their validation consists in choosing who to believe. My dear sister even said that 'well it depends which websites you believe'

As she assured me that German government was lying about its own nuclear power but was telling the exact truth about Chernobyl, that it was going to kill 1/4 million people. And cover it up. Somehow.

Its called doublethink.

I call these people in general ArtSuidents™ because what is important to them is the emotional and moral tenor of their lives. They buy Apple tech and German cars, because it makes them feel superior and good about themselves. Another habit they have was vest describe by Rudyard Kipling - and acute psychologist - in 'the Jungle Book'.

"We are the greatest and the wisest people in the jungle...what we think to day the world will think tomorrow ... we all say it, so it must be true!"

Bandar Log. The monkey people.

They are not stupid people, they are that most dangerous of species, people who are a bit smart, but think they are a lot smarter than they are, and as smart as anybody else.

But they are intellectually lazy: the short cut of simply receiving someone else's wisdom instead of the hard work of acquiring some themselves, is simply too tempting

In a political context they are called 'useful idiots' : they will latch on to any 'new' idea and support it with fervour simply in order to be as they see it 'ahead of the game'.

Marketing to this group consists in generating an emotional narrative about the product that presents it in the light of being 'new, promising, and full of hope - the obvious choice of an intelligent person', Rather than 'true, useful, tried and tested'

Or as the Daily Mash put it 'clever science man say new shiny thing make everything better'

Whenever you detect a potential emotional bias to a narrative, the implication that those not 'with it' are incurable Neanderthals, an/or research that implies that '97% of everybody who counts believes in it' you may be sure its snake oil...

Occasionally it is someone using the tried and tested techniques to sell something good - but usually success will convert the good product into cheaper-to-produce-snake-oil once money takes control so these examples are short lived but often to be found in the early history of the best snake oil providers.

It occurs to me that there are uncomfortable parallels in this approach to Goerring's "voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”. Also to Sun Tzu's lengthy observations.

fm radio is almost never used on a phone for a number of reasons, including a distance limit of roughly 50 miles (usually less due to terrain) and that headphones are required (and not coiled up stuffed into a pocket), making it impossible to listen with bluetooth wireless headphones, the internal speakers or external speakers.

smartphones do not have any of those limitations and can stream stations from anywhere in the world, and not just fm, but also am, police/fire, air traffic control and more.

more commonly, smartphones stream from music services such as spotify or from podcast networks, and of course, anything stored locally on the phone.

people can listen via any headset, wired or wireless, internal speakers, which on many phones are reasonably good, or external speakers.

really. nor do almost all android phones as well as feature phones. it's not something that is in any demand, let alone high demand.

that's what push notifications are for, and the emergency alert system.

almost all smartphones do not have an fm radio, and of those that do, it's exceptionally rare that it's actually used due to its limitations.

and often times not.

that's why people have moved to streaming services such as spotify, where you have control over what you hear, from a library of nearly everything.

or they listen to music from their own music library stored on the phone, or other content, such as podcasts.

none of that is possible with fm radio.

smartphones can stream video and optionally cast it to a large screen tv.

netflix is extremely popular, as are other services.

you're living in the dark ages.