smallest wired keyboard?

be sure to pose it with some textbooks.

not anymore, although i might still have the wire wrap gun. that was a cool device.

now i have a bunch of raspberry pis, various hats and a bunch of micro sd cards.

It's clear that it's you, nospam, who has never designed microcontroller boards, where in the 80's, that's what I did, and I used these parts then:

Some _books_ I used to learn about design of microcontrollers are thus.

The fact you have both a low IQ & lack of any education is apparent, nospam.

I don't think you have the adult comprehensive skills to realize that we're talking about the early days of microcontrollers, nospam.

You did _everything_ by hand in those days, including hex coding.

I doubt it based on the fact you don't know a thing about coding in hex.

You're an idiot, nospam.

In those days, you wrote the _entire_ program in hex.

a. You _designed_ the "motherboard" (although we didn't call it that) b. You populated it with ZIF sockets or wire-wrapped components c. And you programmed the EEPROM yourself to test the code

We didn't use "assemblers" in those days (although later masm, dasm, wasm, and chasm were used when we finally had a PC to play with years later).

It's how it was done. That you don't know this is an indication of your lack of education.

In those days, we cut open a commodore 64 white plastic cartridge (as I recall) and programmed it also, where I have that somewhere in my garage.

You, nospam, have _never_ done _any_ of this (it's easy to tell). Your lack of education is readily apparently to all.

You did not. You don't know the first thing about it, nospam. You're a poser.

While that's true, it doesn't mean it wasn't done that way long ago. That you never did it is obvious to all, nospam.

One of my best friends made zillions in the early days of Google, writing compilers, and he claims that his compiled results are more efficient than hand coding - where the guy is a genius (unlike you, nospam), so it may very well be the case.

He even gave me, gratis, this rasperry pi & all the necessary transducers!

Maybe I'll ask this newsgroup, in a separate thread, for advice on using it.

Only to you ill-educated ignorant iKooks is "assembly" and "hex" babble.

It's a basic marketing principle, pushed by marketroids (and adopted as an article of faith by J. Random Luser) since long before Apple existed:

"If we don't have it, you don't need it."

Or "we used to have it but we got rid of it and even if you used it you really don't need it anymore and it was an act of courage for us to take it away." See

...but no old, crufty books? No sale!

The fact you completely lack education is why you deprecate textbooks. You always brazenly fabricate everything you claim.

I doubt you have one nospam since you brazenly fabricate everything. Let's see a picture of that wire-wrap gun, nospam, next to your iPhone.

Since my credibility is an asset, here's my _hand_ wire-wrap tool.

And yes, you know that's my iPad since it's asking me to log in again:

BTW, you deprecated my vacuum-tube experience, but do you have _any_ idea what that I/F injection tool is used for nospam?

I didn't think so. You _fabricated_ everything you claimed, nospam.

Every word from you is a brazen fabrication which you _never_ back up.

I don't believe a word you say nospam because you fabricate everything.

BTW, here's _my_ rasperry pi and the transducers to go along with it.

And to prove it's mine, here's a shot of it next to my iPad.

The difference between you and me is I don't fabricate my education. You do.

Let's see a _single_ shot of your proof nospam. Show us just one!

Show us your wire-wrapping gun next to your iPhone nospam. Back up your brazen fabrications of imaginary experience for once.

Not at all.

What we all see is that pictures of textbooks prove nothing about education in a subject.

You mean the way your pictures are always posed next to your phone...

...right?

But it's not next to your phone...

Which you don't have to do if you don't wish to.

You certainly don't prove it...

Right after you.

Ahahahahaha. That's a definite requirement for all intelligent, highly educated adults on this group.

None of the iKooks has _any_ education; so they deprecate the vast knowledge gleaned by having higher degrees in the very stuff they fabricate they know.

And yet... never once do the iKooks _ever_ back up any of their claims. They just pretend.

At least I back up my claims - and yet - they never do. Because they can't.

A nice change from the Apple newsgroups is that the pi people don't fall for the brazen fabrications that the iKooks claim, where the iKooks' self-esteem is in the toilet (rightly so), so they have to _fabricate_ imaginary education (which all of them sorely lack).

I remember an EPROM programmer box, about the size of a dictionary in those days which was, whitish, cream colored, as I recall, with a really nice ZIF socket and a spring-loaded lever and a keypad (as I recall) as you noted.

I wrote in hex. I thought in hex. I programmed in hex.

Those who have done it _understand_ what I say, and here are just some of the tools and parts I used back in the 80's to do that (I went into the basement to dig these out but I didn't find my commodore 64 with the hole cut in the plastic where we programmed it to use the TI speech synthesizer and IR transducers that were all the rage in those days at Radio Shack.

The point of these ad hoc photos is merely to back up my claims (which, the adults on this ng will note that the iKooks never back up their claims).

Actually, it was blue! I'm slowly remembering it. The Commodore 64 cartridge was the whitish cream color (with vents, as I recall).

It was a long time ago...

But the basics are what we learned by designing our own microcontroller boards. These are the basics that the iKooks _pretend_ they know (but don't).

An obvious fact that they never did it is that everyone who has done it knows you wrote in hex and programmed the EEPROM in hex; yet they don't.

They even ridiculed what was, in effect, what everyone did in those days. That's how you know they completely lack the education they pretend to have.

You've never done anything of the sort nospam.

All you iKooks fabricate everything.

None of you owns any respect for your own credibility.

It's how I know you are ignorant and ill educated.

You don't even care that nothing you claim is true.

Msn, nobody has such fine parts bins. Most folks probably don't have *ANY* 7400 series TTL. Only us OLD guys.

YOU ROCK!

PS: That pic would be even better if you propped a few vacuum tube data books next to your part bins. I recommend the GE tube manual. Books really do show how adult you are.

It's worse than that. He can't find his ass with both hands, much less a half century old wire wrap board.

i definitely have one. it's in a box somewhere in storage and i'm not going to bother digging it out for a troll.

i had one of those too.

eventually, i got a wire wrap gun, which was a lot more fun.

yes.

oh yes i did, as well as ttl/cmos before microcontrollers were common.

no, not everyone.

biomedical instrument design is the best way to learn about hex coding and microprocessors.

in fact, medical certification requires the firmware to be written entirely in hex.

yep, i sure did, even feeding paper tape or punched cards into the reader and sometimes toggling in instructions on a front panel.

except that was a long time ago and no longer relevant.

no, you wrote it in assembly and then converted it to hex, sometimes by hand.

things are different now.

it is the case.

with very rare exception, compilers will produce better optimized code than what humans can do, especially on modern processors, for reasons well beyond your level of understanding.

Notice how you _never_ come up with _anything_ that you claim you have. You're a bullshitter nospam. You have no respect for your utter lack of credibility.

You don't even have the charger you claim nearly everyone has.

Bullshit. You've never wire wrapped a microprocessor circuit in your life. You're nothing but a bullshitter nospam.

All you iKooks fabricate everything. None of you owns any respect for your own credibility.

The fact you feel the need to bullshit is how I know you are ignorant. You don't even care that nothing you claim is true

Bullshit. All you iKooks fabricate everything. None of you owns any respect for your own credibility.

What I would do is design a circuit and then hunt around for the right cap or resistor or transistor, and, if I had it, then great. If not, I would change the circuit since going to radio shack was always a hit or miss.

You, on the other hand, have _never_ designed a circuit in your entire life. All you do, nospam, is bullshit.

You have absolutely no respect for yourself or for your lack of credibility.

The fact you say that in the way you did, given the time that I got that degree shows that you completely lack any and all education, nospam.

HINT: It's what medical instruments were made with in those days, idiot.

Again, you have no knowledge of what an educational institution does. Every statement from you shows that you completely lack any education.

You ridiculed hex coding simply because it sounded funny to you, just as Chris ridiculed the "vehicle" term which is common in immunology.

None of you iKooks has _any_ education to speak of. And your substandard IQ shows up in every childish comment you make.

Unlike you, nospam, I did use punched tape and punched cards and also unlike you, I toggled the boot address at the bottom of the PDP 11, which, I'm sure you're completely unaware, many research institutes used as their computers.

Every statement from you shows your entire demeanor is a childish person. Every statement from you is utter bullshit.

You lack IQ. You lack education. And your self esteem is in the toilet. (Rightly so.)

Everything you do, stems from the confluence of those three basic traits.

It's better to be a has been than a never was.

You are an idiot. I said I wrote it in hex and that means I did.

You ridiculed that because you're ignorant that people did it that way. You are always proving to be ignorant of everything, nospam.

The fundamentals are the same now as they ever were. You don't realize that because you're ignorant of them.

The fact you ridiculed basic hex coding is an indicator of that observation.

I think it's interesting that your IQ is ~80 and yet you don't realize that. It's exactly why you are _desperate_ to bullshit us constantly nospam.

Your self esteem (rightly so) is in the toilet.