use microwave oven as high powered transmitter.

I was sitting around thinking the other day. (I sometimes do this when I have a few extra minutes), and it occurred to me that there is a very powerful source of RF energy sitting in most of our kitchens. Our microwave oven. Now theororetically speaking (of course), if the magnetron was properly connected to a waveguide and this energy was directed to a suitable parabolic antenna we would have a very high powered 2400 MHZ CW transmitter. To further the project, I don't believe there is a screen grid on a mag so if one was enterprising enough could plate modulation be added to this? I'm sure FCC approval would be no problem at all.... Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics.

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Bob Loblaw

It's already well modulated at 60 Hz. at least in these parts.

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mike

The magnetron would be a very crude type of emitter.

In theory a high power microwave transmitter can be built with a magnetron. It would have to be properly tuned to the antenna. Being a crude magnetron, it would be very high on harmonics to begin with. I would doubt that this type of transmitter would have any approval by the FCC.

Today's radar systems use very refined tubes such as a TWT or Klystron with proper tuning and control. There are new technology radar systems that are working with solid state high power devices rather than tubes. They work at a much lower base power than the magnetron from a microwave oven.

As for pointing such a high power transmitter at anything, it would be lethal.

A point of interest is that there is some research going on to be able to make a solid state microwave oven. Getting the high power levels required for food cooking using solid state devices at a reasonable cost, is what is being researched.

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I was sitting around thinking the other day. (I sometimes do this when
I have a few extra minutes), and it occurred to me that there is a
very powerful source of RF energy sitting in most of our kitchens. Our
microwave oven. Now theororetically speaking (of course), if the
magnetron was properly connected to a waveguide and this energy was
directed to a suitable parabolic antenna we would have a very high
powered 2400 MHZ CW transmitter. To further the project, I don't
believe there is a screen grid on a mag so if one was enterprising
enough could plate modulation be added  to this? I'm sure FCC approval
would be no problem at all....
 Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics.
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JANA

What possible use is this?

NT

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meow2222

Little information content. :)

You would have to modify the power supply to produce HV DC and then modulate that.

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Sam Goldwasser

Or filter the existing power supply to get DC and build a pulse generator to get short pulses at a high frequency (> 10 KHz) and FM modulate the pulse generator. :-)

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Bill Janssen

The way they are designed, you can't simply tack on a filter capacitor. The existing parts could be rearranged into a half wave rectified and filter supply at perhaps 2 kV. To reach the 4 kV or so peak of the typical oven, would require another HV diode and HV cap. But it's a bit more hassle because the normal microwave oven has the HV transformer, HV capacitor, and magnetron with one side connected to the chssis.

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Sam Goldwasser

The ones I've dealt with have two terminals on the capacitor, I don't recall seeing any polarizing markings. You're right about the transformer and magnetron though.

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James Sweet

Yeah, that has to be correct. Neither end of the cap is normally grounded.

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Sam Goldwasser

It was done, about 20 years ago by a ham radio operator. There was an article published in one of the ham radio magazines about it.

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I think it's been done by hams, many years ago. With a tube in series with the HV to modulate the plate voltage.

Unfortunately the magnetron isnt too stable, frequency-wise. So with varying plate voltage you get both AM and FM.

And too wide a bandwidth for moon-bounce, I'd guess.

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Ancient_Hacker

With an appropriately pointed dish you could update motorists speed on speed camera RADAR. Sounds good to me, besides making the camera operator go a little blind. The alternative is that you should cook the primary detection circuit on the device, cooking its goose so to say. Modulation could be a problem...

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Jack

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