Tech Help Hitachi, 65SWX20B

My tv shut off last night. I finally got it to power up and stay up with the sound just no pic. I figured out that when I unplug the 5 pin connector that leads from the red light tube from the power board the board will come on and stay up. If I try to plug it back in it will give off a snap, small spark and shut the tv off.. The connector has 5 wires, one pink and four brown. With my meter I can put the pos on the pink and go alone three of the browns and get 250V. On one of the browns there is no power. Any ideas or tests I can do.. Any help will be appreciated.

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jmacross
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If there are heatsinks on the CRT boards look to see whether the have a three terminal device on them or an IC. If ICs it is likely that one of them is shorted. To determine which one each CRT board needs to be disconnected individually to find out which one.

If the snap you mentioned was from anode cap leakage you would notice if you had disconnected the grounds, you would get zapped. It is very unlikely to be able to disconnect all of the grounds easily, they are redundant. If the snap was from focus voltage, well you did not disconnect that, it usually goes right from the FCB to the socket itself, doesn't even touch the PC board.

Sometimes ICs make a sound when they blow open, and do sound like an arc. Therefore the first thing I would do is to physically inspect the ICs for blow holes. This would be the quickest way to the problem. See one, remove it and the set should run with the other two colors only. At times they blow apart so you can't read the part number, but then the other two do have the number, such as TDA6111Q, something like that. Common problem if they use them.

Another possibility is that what you disconnected was the G2 supply, but I am pretty sure that is a soft supply in those sets, so it can't make a pop or snap. If that's the case, your meter is what loads it down to 250V, because G2 is usually about 400V, but a meter loads it. You wouldn't have that though, usually that will be a wire coming to a one or two prong plug to the CRT socket board. It would not usually come from the power board, it would come from the FCB (thingy with either three or six controls on it).

Also, I seriously doubt whether a short on either focus or G2 would cause the set to shutdown.

I just checked the database and there are no records for that model, is it pretty new ? Or did you type it wrong ?

If it's really new are the CRTs still in warranty ? If so you shouldn't be in there. If you screw anything up they might deny the warranty claim. Because there is always a slight possibility that the CRT is shorted. I would much rather pay someone just the labor to change a CRT than to foot the whole bill.

Anyway, at this point, if you see TDA 6111 or 8351 on the devices on the heatsinks, be very suspicious of them. Best I can do with the info you provided.

JURB

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ZZactly

It also looks as if the elecrolytic cap is bulging, the one on the left above the burnt looking area.

Greg

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Dartattack

Well, it evidently took a hit when the board went out the first time. It is giving me a reading of 18.4 V on the meter, is this normal? The board is completely unhooked from the tv, should there still be any power showing anywhere on the board?

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jmacross

This is so obviously lightning or a power surge as evidenced by the lower left corner of the pic. The black disk shaped component is probably an MOV, like used in surge protectors.

This could mean big problems. What people do not understand is the the EMP caused by lightning can put thousands of volts across a few feet of wire. This wreaks havoc on semiconductor devices.

It is most likely the MOV is at least no longer effective. And it was probably the pop. If you have other problems it might be a bit difficult to fix them all. The set might fire up, but in such a case it might pose an insidious shock hazard.

If you get it running you need to do something for safety. Afteer this happens, before just hooking it back up, you need to do a live line leakage check. Without proper tools, you turn it on and take something and stick it in an electrical socket, touch every ground on the outside of the TV as possible, this includes the antenna, the vid ins, all of it. Don't go to the signal lines, just the grounds. Then take and do it from the other "blade" of the plug.

This is called a ground fault and if you got one, everything you hook up to that TV will become a shock hazard.

Unlike video games and other things, TVs can become a hazard alot easier. Power supply requirements and a widely fluctuating load have spurned them on to develop these super high efficiency power supplies, and there may be other paths between hot and cold ground. If any of them are shorted you could have an insidious, and possibly deadly fault.

JURB

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ZZactly

Thanks for the advice, I have ordered a new power supply board. Hopefully get it tomorrow. I will hook that up and see what I got..

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