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>>Have you ever heard of a button like this before?
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>No, but I wish to hell I had one.
On behalf of hell, I'm here to answer your wishes. These buttons are not quite what you want, but should make suitable substitutes:
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You only need the button and not the switch. The switch only supports the button and otherwise does nothing useful.
Incidentally, it's acceptable to pray for a miracle. However, relying on a miracle to make your project work is not acceptable.
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Cursitor Doom
Dang it, Jeff, that last suggestion of yours is my go-to principal design technique. :(
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Carlos E.R.
To charge for the repair. Yes, I have seen this before, in some expensive machine. They told us in training about the secret reset button.
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Jeff Liebermann
Miraculous design worked well for biblical prototypes but not so well meeting modern standards and safety requirements. Fortunately, miraculous design might soon be replaced by AI and other forms of traditional magic which does not require a miracle to function. If you are uncertain as to which approach is best for whatever you're building, I suggest you consider reverse engineering, patent infringement, cloning the competition, changing the specs, faking the test data, bribing the inspector and other modern engineering practices. It also helps to have a designated culprit or scapegoat available. Good luck.
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Martin Brown
Or the cunningly hidden additional thermal cutout or fuse.
It is what "repair cafes" are for - to mend things that are in fact perfectly OK but have been disabled by designed in obsolescence.
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Greta Thongturd
Yah, and some of them have a very specific finger dance to get it to reset.
Push and hold the reset button while plugging in the power cord until the green light flashes red 5 times. Release the reset button for 60 seconds then press the wifi button until the yellow led flashes red. Warning: Failure to follow these directions exactly will turn your $500 plastic piece of crap into a forever brick.
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Carlos E.R.
The dances are there usually when there is no dedicated reset button.
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Martin Brown
I recall one particularly painful reset method on an Andriod device that required holding in the tiny on/off switch and volume-down buttons for
120s. Your fingers start to go numb after about 90s.
Some things do that automatically.
Various smart speakers and some high end internet tuners for example when the protocols are changed and the makers CBA to support old kit.
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micky
That's incredible. (well, not really, since I believe you, so it must be credible.)
Where was this training, in the US or Spain? And if they tell people like you, what prevents the people they tell from telling everyone else? I guess they have to tell someone or it wouldn't be of any value, but I'd think they'd be worried everyone not doing repairs would be annoyed when they heard about this.
What made it break when it did, about 15 years after I bought it. Is it on a timer? Will it break again in another 15 years? Or maybe it's operational time, not calendar time. For maybe 10 years I recorded 3 hours a day and played back 3 hours a day. plus some more time watching what wasn't recorded. 3 or 4 years I left it running (and the hard drive spinning I guess) 4 or 5 days of the week. So it was running for
5 or 6 years total, I think. That's not very much imo, compared to 15 years elapsed time.
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Carlos E.R.
Both :-)
It was an international USA company. I'm not going to say the culprit, that product seems to be still active (which surprises me). Ah, no, the current supplier says it is EOL.
:-D
Who knows. But my guess is that any machine that has some sort of computer inside must have some reset method.
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john larkin
We recently did a box that uses the Raspberry Pi RP2040 cpu chip. The Pico board has two pushbuttons, reset and boot. We have a single push button accessed from outside our box, with a toothpick or something. A
1-second push is reset and a 10-second push is boot, where the thing goes into USB memory stick mode, for code upgrades.
A user can put a sticker over the pushbutton hole if he wants. Some do.
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john larkin
We have a horrible new Panasonic microwave oven. The BEEP is ear-splitting. The procedure to silence it is complex, and only works if the door is open.
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Mark Lloyd
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Does it keep forgetting it was silenced, so you have to do this procedure multiple times?
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Jeroen Belleman
On one occasion, I muted an obnoxious beeper by stuffing chewing gum into it. There! Problem solved.
Jeroen Belleman
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john larkin
I break the piezo buzzer, if I can get at it.
We should arrest whoever invented piezo buzzers. Put him in a prison cell with 100 piezos.
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Cursitor Doom
Thanks, Jeff!
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Cursitor Doom
I would never, ever buy anything from a company who used such tactics to screw customers over. For a similar reason, I would never buy a VW car after it emerged they were purposlely falsifying their emissions tests by a similar sort of scheme.
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john larkin
Amazingly, Flux is still in business.
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danny burstein
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Two days after the warranty expires, of course.
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Allodoxaphobia
Additionaly, if you have 'normal' hearing loss, those piezo buzzers cannot be heard without hearing aids. I don't wear hearing aids to bed -- so smoke and carbon monoxide alarms will never awaken me. We had a CO 'incident' several years ago, and my wife heard the alarm. Not me. I can be standing in front of the microwave and I won't know my coffee is hot until the "END" lights up.
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