Re: Any chance this has a fuse which has failed. (2025 Update)

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>>>>> My Philips DVDR3575H just stopped working. It's a DVDR with an over the
>>> air tuner and a HDD. I figured the HDD would fail and soon after I
>>> bought it I found on a video forum instructions for installing a new >>> one.
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>>> But instead, the whole thing went dead. Worked yesterday and two or 3
>>> short power failures today. Now nothing displays. I had found the DVD
>>> tray open (because I run it from another roomy and don't know when I
>>> press the wrong button) but it went in fine when I pushed it. Doesn't it
>>> have to be working a little for tray to go in? Maybe it's the display
>>> that has broken? I checked the outlet and a lamp plugged into he same
>>> place works fine. The owners manual says nothing about a fuse. Any
>>> chance ther is one anyhow, and somehow the power failure blew it? >>>
>>> It's all wired in and hard to disconnect, especially the little red bug
>>> that's stuck to the IR input. And if there is no chance of fixing this,
>>> I'll just buy something else and tranfeer the wires, instead of
>>> disconnecting them and confusing myself.
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>>> This is 15 years old and I recorded 2 or 3 hours of video a day every
>>> day for most of its life, then played the 2 or 3 hours, plus I left it
>>> on when watching tv live, and often when I was't even using it. You can
>>> see why I thought the HDD would fail. Yet I don't think that could be
>>> the problem today.
>>>
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>>I was able to find and download the service manual for this item at: >>
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Thanks. Very helpful.

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>>Your browser/pdf reader of choice may be able to translate the text into >>English.

The Japanese part? I don't think so. But almost all is in Engish. That's just the guy who sent it in wanting credit for himself and maybe his company.

The schematics and block diagrams are located fair far down in
>>the manual. It appears that there are separate analog and digital power
>>supplies. That might explain why the tray still opens/closes (analog
>>power supply working) but nothing else (they probably are powered by the
>>digital power supply). I didn't see any fuses but the circuity is
>>extensive, lots of pin connectors separating the connections, and I may
>>have missed something.
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>>Your decision of course how much it's worth in time, effort and $$ to
>>disconnect the device, open the case, and look for a fuse. This appears

It's worth endless effort, assuming I have some chance of success.

>to be a very complicated conglomeration of multiple circuit boards using
>>many ICs etc. Well beyond my experience and knowledge to suggest
>>anything additional. Personally, it sounds like an appropriate activity
>>for a fully retired person. Nothing to lose. You can't break it! It's
>>already not functioning. You can prossibly find a replacement on ebay.

A few years after I got this, I looked for another because I knew this would fail someday, and there were only 1 or 2 alternatives DVDR's with Hardrive, and one was $600 and even it had some4thing I didn't like.

This week, when I first looked on ebay, before posting here, I found they were no selling for 30 to 70 dollars, on ebay. Whoopee. But one of he ebay models I found on Amazon complete with a video review in which he pointed out that one could not play one recording while watching a different recording. That's pretty important. At least I do it all the time.

Going back to ebay, this time I searched on Philips and found a whole bunch of things I hadn't found before, including 9, count 'em, 9 versions of just what I have now, ranging from a real auction that has now 5 more days to run but started at $15. Seveal are listed as Tested, but only 4 of the 9 have remotes, and the box itself only has 5 buttons. There is not much one can do, or test, without the remote. But even the ones that have remotes, am I to think they tested everything? maybe must that it turned on and the screen said Playing and Record (two of the 5 buttons) and the DVD drawer opend (one more of the 5 buttons. A fourth is Power and the fifst is Stop.) Did they even connect a TV to see if something was coming out the other end? They all promise in the standards for Used that it works completely, but they can't even change channels without the remote. So they assume it works but I'll have to ship it back if it doesn't.

Micky, as I recall, that device had an old NTSC (analog TV signal) tuner in it. You many need to find an old digital to analog converter box and put that between the antenna and the antenna input of the Phillips device. I'm not surprised that you couldn't tune in an TV station on a TV tuner that only receives analog TV signals. You must not have used that DVDR since before the implementation of digital TV broadcasting.

I've got a pair of FLEX 4K receivers that pick up 15 ATSC3 channels but 7 of those are DRM protected so no longer usable. Makes me wonder how long before broadcasters shut off ATSC1, effectively killing the DVR.

The major telcom TV providers, e.g., Comcast, Verizon, etc. want you to rent their DVRs for at least $10/mo. and subscribe to their over-priced bundle of channels rather than use your own DVR to record over-the-air broadcasts in areas where OTA reception is available. (In cases when they stream their programs over the internet, unless you find an illegal, pirated way to watch, you still need to subscribe to have access through their paywall.) They or their family of companies own many of the OTA stations. No surprise that they will DRM encrypt their broadcast signals to force people to purchase their channel packages and rent their equipment. Of course, their stable of high priced lobbyists, intellectual property and corporate lawyers have won the day in Congress, at the FCC, and in the courts. It seems broadcasters no longer need even to pretend to perform a public service. They only need to serve the best interests of their shareholders. I understand the need to protect intellectual property and collect royalties etc. but their strategy to bundle etc. enables them to charge well beyond their costs + a reasonable profit.

The current rule is that some time in spring of 2028 they will be allowed to stop transmitting atsc1, but they left open that they may change the rule, which I assume means delay it longer.

There still are a lot of cities where there is no atsc3, and more importantly, it's not backward compatible, so they will either have 300 million obsolete tvs or they'll have to have another converter box giveaway.

I came across a youtube channel by the antennaman or antenna man. Easy to find in youtube. He's clear, easy to watch, concise, not bloated, and he has one among many where he talks about atsc3.

I've thought about this a bit before buying a new 15-year old dvdr, but I'm going by my usual rule, to assume nothing will ever change until after I'm dead, say 2052. By then even my new old dvdr will have failed.

That sounds like a great system.

I thought about that for myself a few years back but it would take a lot more work than just replacing the DVDR. Because all the incoming and outgoig wires go to my bedroom, and all my video and audio stuff is on a bookshelf next to my bed, and the computer is in anoher room. I looked into controlling the computer from my bedroom.

I copied the HdHomeRun and the SageTV and if I ever can't replace the DVDR or I move to an old-people storage facility, I may do it your way.

BTW. back to my original post, since I get no output from the harddrive or the DVD, and the foot counter indicates that the HDD is progressing, it means that some output circuit has failed and the harddrive is still working after 15 years of heavy use. I'm very impressed.

We're also now thrilled that Google let us open source the SageTV platform! The source code is now available on GitHub......

The SageTV Forums can be accessed here

As I understand it, atsc3 has the mechanism to support subscriptions but they're not using that feature in my area.

On my FLEX 4K receivers, the local CBS atsc3 channels allow live viewing, recording, playback and commercial skip.

The local NBC atsc3 channels are DRM protected so block live viewing, recording, playback and commercial skip. All you get is a black screen.

While I don't want that to happen, Its not "killing the DVR" when you can use it with cable. At least when the DVR can control the cable box.

I'm still using ReplayTV DVRs (mostly for old shows).

I don't know of any stand-alone networked consumer DVR that can record/playback DRM encrypted atsc3.0 content. I've heard rumors the entertainment overlords are working on it but we all know how that goes.

No, it has both an analog and a digital tuner, and I have a whatchamacallit to make the output analog. That's one reason I bought it, to get digital signals.

In a few minutes, I'm starting a new thrread about a couple idiosyncracies of the item.