Inexpensive dialup

Lenny

try: BasicISP.net (800) 456-3118 PO Box 511 Mount Vernon, OH 43050

may also be called copper.net

very cheap! easy to reach a person for customer service on technical questions.

they have high speed interface too, soyou can 'upgrade' if you want.

They have a competitor, forgot their name.

Northest Australia or northeast Bosnia?

And, what the hell does this have to do with s.e.r?

Actually with DSL being about $15 a month, dialup isn't worth it. Even if ou get it for ten bucks you would tie up your landline.

ou get it for ten bucks you would tie up your landline.

Where do yo get DSL for 15.00 a month? Our local phone company charges us 46.00 a month. Lenny

get it for ten bucks you would tie up your landline.

get it for ten bucks you would tie up your landline.

That's often not the whole story. I pay 14.99/month for DSL. Problem is that I can't get it without phone service that adds up to $43/month. And the places that do have reasonably priced naked dsl don't serve my neighborhood.

ou get it for ten bucks you would tie up your landline.

It's still one of the best places to start looking. I have broadband through Brighthouse. I tried to talk a local business out of switching from their T1 to DSL, but they wouldn't listen. Now they are finally switching to broadband with Cox.

s us 46.00 a month. Lenny

Wow. I can understand it being that along with landline ervice, but by itse lf ? Where are you Zimbabwe or something ? Just wow.

From what I understand for about $50 a month you can have true wireless. I mean that your modem will work almost anywhere and you need no cable or lan dline at all. They are gouging you if that's really the rate. (if you get t hat just get a Magicjack and you'll have phone with unlimited longdistance as well and can tell the ma bell to stick their service where it is sure no t to get a sunburn)

Roadrunner comes to mind, I've heard of alot of people using it and I guess it works fine. I would shop around. But really, the true wireless for abou t fifty bucks, you can connect as many Magicjacks as your computer(s) can h andle.

Just like the gas company bullshit, a phone company must allow other provid ers to use their lines, although of course they charge for that. Somewhere on the web there is a site that lists what is available for your exchange a nd area code. Most likely Cnet would be a good place to start. IIRC their s peedtest page had a link to it.

On Friday, October 19, 2012 12:43:46 PM UTC-4, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote :

Lenny

DSL should be at $20 U.S. or under, but it's only marginally better than di alup for speed. Sometimes it's so bad I get off the web and do something el se for an hour, then try later. In fact, my son calls DSL "Dial-up Speed i f Lucky". Once U*Verse hits my street, I can deal with Comcast for a bette r cable and internet rate.

John

Actually I get pretty good results with DSL here. At my other house I had t hree PCs all running the speed test indicating about 2 MB/sec.simultaneousl y. I've gotten even better speeds on P2P. In fact I just checked it now wit h the Cnet test and it came out over 2.4. Hardly dialup.

What really gets me is that both houses have very old phone wiring. Apparen tly it's not the factor it's made out to be.

I think the DSL carrier operates like LVDS (low oltage differential signali ng)so it works OK with these old wires. Probably when you get too many all squished together for too long a run it slows it down. That would be in a t runk cable.

So you got the distance from ma bell's substation as a factor, and not to f orget the number of subscribers. That is becoming an issue in some areas as they themselves only have so much speed.

Let's put it this way, if your state only has one area code, you might get slow DSL. (sounds like Jeff Foxworthy huh) But here it works pretty well. I can understand it being slower in some areas, but I don't get why it would cost three times as much.

And don't kid yourself about cable either, I hear when they get too many su bscribers they slow down as well.

About the P2P thing, when I get on a website and download a print or someth ing, it gives me usually about 100K/second and change. Rarely 200K. This is obviously not my limitation. When on P2P to get those fantastic speeds you need to be downloading from multiple sources. The client software does tha t and when you get like 20 sources at once it flies.

So in the end, how much speed do you need ?

I still say if the DSL is that expensive then just go with totally wireless for fifty a month. Four bucks less and you have to screw around with filte rs and all that. In fact with a Magicjack you can drop ma bell altogether.

three PCs all running the speed test indicating about 2 MB/sec.simultaneou sly. I've gotten even better speeds on P2P. In fact I just checked it now w ith the Cnet test and it came out over 2.4. Hardly dialup.

ently it's not the factor it's made out to be.

ling)so it works OK with these old wires. Probably when you get too many al l squished together for too long a run it slows it down. That would be in a trunk cable.

forget the number of subscribers. That is becoming an issue in some areas as they themselves only have so much speed.

t slow DSL. (sounds like Jeff Foxworthy huh) But here it works pretty well. I can understand it being slower in some areas, but I don't get why it wou ld cost three times as much.

subscribers they slow down as well.

thing, it gives me usually about 100K/second and change. Rarely 200K. This is obviously not my limitation. When on P2P to get those fantastic speeds y ou need to be downloading from multiple sources. The client software does t hat and when you get like 20 sources at once it flies.

. > I still say if the DSL is that expensive then just go with totally wireless for fifty a month. Four bucks less and you have to screw around with filters and all that. In fact with a Magicjack you can drop ma bell altogether.

Two years ago I was set up with a Massachusetts company that offered dialup for less than 4.00 a month with a one year paid in advance contract. I signed up twice and never had a problem. Then my wife and daughter in law started operating a business out of part of our house and couldn't deal with the speed so they added DSL to my phone line. Now they may be moving to larger quarters and so I would like to go back to where I was. i just don't remember who the outfit was. Lenny

three PCs all running the speed test indicating about 2 MB/sec.simultaneously. I've gotten even better speeds on P2P. In fact I just checked it now with the Cnet test and it came out over 2.4. Hardly dialup.

it's not the factor it's made out to be.

signaling)so it works OK with these old wires. Probably when you get too many all squished together for too long a run it slows it down. That would be in a trunk cable.

forget the number of subscribers. That is becoming an issue in some areas as they themselves only have so much speed.

slow DSL. (sounds like Jeff Foxworthy huh) But here it works pretty well. I can understand it being slower in some areas, but I don't get why it would cost three times as much.

subscribers they slow down as well.

That's 'Fiber Enhanced Cable'. It is brought to an area on fiber and connected to the existing bi direction CATV system. Each node is a fixed size of a maximum number of connections. They started with 512 per node in this area, about 15 years ago. They have divided them in half several times since then. My contract was for 4 Mb/s and it passes

Also, if you are too far from the central office, have RT's instead of a CO, or your lines are crappy, they either won't install DSL, or it will work horribly. Been there, done that. Before AT&T took over Southwestern Bell, we had Telocity DSL, which worked great. (This was a LONG time ago.) DirecTV bought out Telocity and eventually closed the DSL business, and I moved to Covad. That was great for a long time, then AT&T took over. Perfectly good phone lines went to total crap, and the DSL went to dial-up speeds, when it worked at all. Finally Covad said your line is now at 18000 feet, we just can't support you on such a wire, and we are not allowed to push AT&T to fix it. So, I was forced to go with the cable monopoly. I don't like the shared capacity part of the cable system, but with Docsis 3, the slowdown at busy times is not very bad (used to be VERY noticeable on Docsis 2).

Jon

Part of my family was in Florida for a year and used Brighthouse, I was VERY impressed by the snappy performance. We now have a 10X faster rated speed with Charter, but it is nowhere as snappy. If you do pings and traceroutes, it is obvious some of Charter's (and their backbone providers) servers are BADLY overloaded.

Jon

Time/Warner-Brighthouse owns a large part of the Roadrunner fiber optic backbone that provides their internet services. I use earthlink via the Roadrunner backbone. They have a 'lite' service for $29.99 a month. They also offer a 40 Mb/s service for heavy users.