Electric Oven Wire keeps burning out!

On Tuesday, May 16, 2006 at 1:02:42 AM UTC-4, cfidad wrote in alt.home.repair:

The best bet is to call an electrician in the phone book.

That assumes that someone still has a phone book from 2006.

Did you perchance miss the date of the request?

It was 15+ years ago.

Appliance repairman would be more apropos, but... there's often shortage of factory-stock items that DO go bad with age. An 'authorized' repairman can't always use non-factory items.

So, you can replace the last inch or two of wire with new high-temp wire (or just fiberglas spaghetti over a bare wire), and you can make the element connection with something other than a crimp. I like silver solder (jewelry-making supplies, it only takes a few milligrams of Ag alloy) with appropriate (solder salts) flux and a propane torch. Lap the wire and electrode, wrap with a thin copper strand to hold it, flux, crimp a silver bit onto it, and get it redhot.

Spot-welding works, too, when the temperature doesn't serve crimps well, but most of us don't have that apparatus handy.

Another idiot google groups user replying to a posting that is 15 years old.

Do you really think this person is still waiting for your answer after

bruce bowser wrote:

Haha... in all seriousness, I have been burned by enough people online, that I do use a phone book when looking for a contractor. I've chalked up anyone that doesn't advertise in the yellow pages as anywhere from inferior to total scam artist at this point.

There is something on the internet called Next Door Neighbor. Just a big bullliten board where you can post most anything. I have asked on there for several contractors and plumbers and painters. So far every one people on there recommend have been execellent. Most people like the painter does not not need to advertise as they stay busy by word of mouth. Took me 2 months before I could get a painter as he was that far behind. Same with a concrete company to pour a pad for a garage. Once they got started they were here every day on time wether permitting.

alked

I have a rule-of-thumb when dealing with unknown companies - if they don't list their physical address on their web site (google street view that address) along with a phone number then I usually won't bother with

them.

John :-#)#

That does not always work. I have seen many ads to sell things that show a big store and it seems to be a valid web page, but more checking out and it is just some spoofing going on to cheat you .

And why Google Earth exists.

Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

What good does Google Eatth do ? It just shows there is a store at that address. If I say I will be shipping from that store, it does not mean I actually will.

I have seen many ads pop up on Face Book and if you look them up there will be a store at that place. Try checking out some of the liquadition sales that pop up. Most of them will show you a store, but if you contact that store directly they will tell you you are being scammed by someone else and that was not their ad.

I think the problem is crimping. Crimping is not for solid wire. the best method is probably spot welding or specifically Capacitance Discharge Welding. You have a hand-held wand that can make those connections.

Signage. Truck decals. Adjacent addresses. Much can be learned.

Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

Much can be faked by claiming the address of a legitimate business, as well . Around here, people were advertising enclosed trailers as being sold by e xisting businesses, but they didn't run the ads. I've reported one to the F BI for Wire Fraud, after contacting the FTC.

Are you talking about

Yes that is the one. It can be set up for your area.

Sofar when several have recommended people for me I have never been let down. Just usually have to wait a while for many as they stay busy. Sometimes it is just a day or so, but the painter and concrete people were so far behind and the weather was not letting them work either, it took a few months for me to work my way up their list. Once they started, they were here on time weather permitting. Hard to paint outside in the rain...

I did commercial sound for over a decade without a business phone. I worked for three school systems, some factories and churches. I did the work on s ite, and only warehouse the supplies out of a couple rooms in my home. It t was all word of mouth, or in one case a customer of a former employer knew what neighborhood I lived in, so they sent their head of maintenance to loo k for my unmarked van. The irony was that when I left that job I told the o wner that I would not try to take away any existing customers, but that I w ouldn't turn down the work if they knocked on my door. That was the second largest school district in the area. They didn't like the quality of work o r the attitude of whoever was hired to replace me. I couldn't find good hel p that I would take into a school, so I had no need to advertise. Most work was completed in one trip, unlike my largest competertor who had over 20 c rews on the road, but avered a little over five visits to finish a job. Of course, they were billed for each visit to around $150 per trip. Quite ofte n, they would tell a school board that a systyem was uunrepairable, since t hey were franchised for most of three states. I got the first school system away from them by picking up a couple pallets of 'unrepairable equipment' one Friday afternoon, and returning it all to the school board's building t he following Monday morning. They had had some of the equipment for over a year, claiming that the parts were on backorder. I had repaired eveything t hat they couldn't, and they did over $1,000,000 a year in new sales in the '70s. A well marked building, highly advertised B2B who were well past thei r prime. It was supposedly managed by a pair of EEs who weren't smart enoug h to add a pair of amplifiers to the existig intercom system. It was severl y distorted when they turned on the new equipment. The idiots had paralled two new Dukane Amplifiers with the existing RCA, but they weren't smart eno ugh to realize the Dukane amps were 180 degrees out of phase from the exist ing RCA amps. Rather than find out what was wrong, they simple cut the spak er wires off the mew amps and left them powered up.