Delete Messages on Answering Machine

My housekeeper accidentally deleted all the messages (including my 2 year old daughter's) from my Uniden 900 MHz 378 series telephone answering machine. Any possibible way of getting those messages back?

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Senin
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There are several good books about time travel.

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PeterD

No. Your unit does not use tape to record messages. It uses digital memory devices. Only under the most extraordinary circumstances would there be a non-zero chance of recovering anything. If those circumstances existed, I'm sure you'd have mentioned them.

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webpa

Well, it has been shown recently that RAM chips can be read after removing them from a switched off computer, and the data retrieved. This is usually done by cooling the chips with liquid nitrogen before removal. The memory holds the data long enough to be read off the chips, despite current beliefs/data about how long memory chips keep their data. (often a few minutes after the machine has shut down - much longer if cooled down).

This has quite serious implications as far as computer security is concerned, as the RAM often contains copies of any data that was last used, and is often not encryted, despite any encryption used in the machine. (This is an oversight of some encryption systems I believe)

In your case it may be possible to remove the memory chips and copy them, then you would need some sort of undelete software, and you may be able to get your messages back. But somehow I don't think you are going to try that.

Gareth.

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Gareth Magennis

"Gareth Magennis" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@bt.com:

Not so much an oversight as a necessity. In order to VIEW or [in most cases]manipulate encrypted data, it MUST be decrypted. That is done [usually] in RAM.

The 'oversight' is that most operating systems don't clear that data when normal shutdown is down.

In the case of an abnormal shutdown, the hardware would have to be specially designed to wipe itself.

Considering the number of bugs that have been found in hardware and software, I suspect that the chances of a 'completely foolproof' protection system are very small.

*** a small thermite charge triggered by ANY abnormal shutdown WOULD probably ensure security but would also ensure very short computer lifetime.

I suspect that by the time the erasure was discovered, it was much too late for such.

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bz

Greetings -Senin..

Why is your housekeeper even close enough around your answering machine to 'accidentally' do this?

Solution, make it clear to either stay away from personal electronics and especially your telephone answering machine or she will be replaced. Simple as that.. Otherwise, this is likely to happen [yet] again.

The "oh, sorry about that.." routine doesn't cut it unless she has been with you for years and this just happened out of the blue. I will tell you that the housekeepers love to tell stories like this with other housekeepers about how they do such things for jollies.. Senin, IF it was truly important to you, then it's time for the bill payer to be stern, otherwise, she won't consider it any more important than you do!

Cheers, Mr. Mentor

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dBc

Nice guesses, but dBc obviously knows nothing about cleaning. Housekeepers are supposed to clean things (by definition,) including answering machines. They gather dust and dirty fingerprints just like phones and keyboards do. It's easy to push buttons randomly when you're cleaning something like that.

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Smitty Two

dBc is either a Troll or a White South African.

Gareth.

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Gareth Magennis

Speaking as a white south african, it's amazing what foreign nationals will say to you about those filthy *racial group/sex/culture* because they just assume you're the same bigotted pig as them. So far, in my limited experience, the brits lead the way (and deny it the most strongly), followed closely by north europeans. American's seem to be far more careful about what they let slip. The whole thing is both offensive and depressing.

Trolls, however, are fair game. Death to trolls.

Allen

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Allen

I'm sorry if you think that I think all White South Africans think the same. The tone of this posters reply just doesn't sound like it comes from Europe or North America, so I made a joke, attempting to make fun of this ludicrous and outdated type of predudice. I have met some "privileged" White South Africans, not many, but was quite astounded to hear certain attitudes that seem to be buried in the culture, that you just don't hear in Europe. Similarly, I have met quite a lot more Israelis while travelling in India, and again was astounded to hear certain attitudes toward whole races of people, not least the Indians whose country they were a guest in. Now that is not to say that I think all Israelis have a bad attitude, but if I hear a similar attitude from someone, I may liken it to the attitudes I have experienced when meeting travelling Israelis, or White South Africans for that matter. In this case I heard something and made a joke about it, I didn't mean to offend anyone, except those with thise sort of attitudes.

I know the British also have some very arrogant attitudes, and I have to say that when I am abroad, I am often embarrassed to be British, to the point where I avoid other British people. I think "we" deserve any jokes you can throw at us to be perfectly frank.

I dunno, humour is humour. There's a great debate about whether Holocaust jokes are acceptable or not, or at what point do we say "now it's OK to make the joke, last week it wasn't".

Gareth.

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Gareth Magennis

Ah don't stress: it's been 24 hours, I'm over it! I find people who moan about being victims of racial stereotyping extremely tiresome and now I'm one of them. I also happen to believe that *ism is a natural state of mind for ALL human beings, and we have to work very hard to overcome it. And finally, I didn't have such a shitty day at the office today, so I'm less likely to go looking for things to be offended at ;)

And now that we're friends again, let's drop the subject - don't wanna hurt the groups signal-noise ratio anymore than I already have.

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Allen

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