Dammit !, anywat, NAP 31X3 chassis

Aug 04, 2005 2 Replies

Sorry, the last post was a test. Friggin Google will sit there and let me type for an hour and THEN ask for login, which loses it all.



Anyway, I'd like to know the mechanism by which the CRT blows the chroma, or more aptly the -Y outputs of IC200. I can't see how this cannot be protected against, and I'm still having trouble even believing this is the cause.



I have had wierd stuff in the past, V height for greyscale, open speaker causing no HV, I am not a babe in the woods. What I'm having a hard time understanding is how any phenomenon connected with the CRT could do this again and again without blowing any other components in the path.



I have solved a similar problem in a CTC169, I just found a transistor that was fairly linear in gain, but had a 400 volt Vce to replace that ECG123 (or was it a 159 ?) equvalent. It never blew the chip, but maybe RCA's chip of the day had better protection. What's more IIRC that transistor is the last stop in the Y driver chain.



Is possibly the collector to base capacitance saving these transistors by delivering the jolt to the chip ?



Seems to me a way could be figured out to protect it from that, that is if I knew the failure mode. I have never witnessed it and as yall know, even if I had I might still know nothing. I might know something but I might not. I would have seen it, but I have not.



Ideas ?



JURB



TIA



" snipped-for-privacy@aol.com" bravely wrote to "All" (03 Aug 05 22:31:11) --- on the heady topic of "Dammit !, anywat, NAP 31X3 chassis"

A Ne2 bulb or a Zener diode at the CRT pin to ground, your pick? Could be the glitch is indirectly injected through a large junction into the IC's supply lines. In which case paralleling a 0.1uF bypass disc cap across the IC's supply might catch it better than the electro sitting there. Sneaky little problem there...

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ZZ> From: snipped-for-privacy@aol.com ZZ> Xref: aeinews sci.electronics.repair:54920

ZZ> Sorry, the last post was a test. Friggin Google will sit there and let ZZ> me type for an hour and THEN ask for login, which loses it all.

ZZ> Anyway, I'd like to know the mechanism by which the CRT blows the ZZ> chroma, or more aptly the -Y outputs of IC200. I can't see how this ZZ> cannot be protected against, and I'm still having trouble even ZZ> believing this is the cause.

ZZ> I have had wierd stuff in the past, V height for greyscale, open ZZ> speaker causing no HV, I am not a babe in the woods. What I'm having a ZZ> hard time understanding is how any phenomenon connected with the CRT ZZ> could do this again and again without blowing any other components in ZZ> the path.

ZZ> I have solved a similar problem in a CTC169, I just found a transistor ZZ> that was fairly linear in gain, but had a 400 volt Vce to replace that ZZ> ECG123 (or was it a 159 ?) equvalent. It never blew the chip, but ZZ> maybe RCA's chip of the day had better protection. What's more IIRC ZZ> that transistor is the last stop in the Y driver chain.

ZZ> Is possibly the collector to base capacitance saving these transistors ZZ> by delivering the jolt to the chip ?

ZZ> Seems to me a way could be figured out to protect it from that, that ZZ> is if I knew the failure mode. I have never witnessed it and as yall ZZ> know, even if I had I might still know nothing. I might know something ZZ> but I might not. I would have seen it, but I have not.

ZZ> Ideas ?

ZZ> JURB

ZZ> TIA

... Which sparks some mnemonic circuitry.

Could be the glitch is indirectly injected through a large junction into the IC's supply lines. In which case paralleling a 0.1uF bypass disc cap across the IC's supply might catch it better than the electro sitting there. Sneaky little problem there...

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