Cellphone/battery compatibility question

I have a Motorola V3(G8/9/18/19) which uses a BR56 battery. Unfortunately I've dropped it one too many times and the screen, Which has been displaying black blobs for the last few months has now become totally unreadable. I really liked my old Razor and as luck would have it my son happened to still have his old Razor which he gave me.

His phone is a slightly different model: V3XX(G8/18/19 WC8/19). I have no idea what any of that means, however his phone seems to have more features than mine. His phone takes a BZ60 battery, and the chargers for both phones are the same. However his battery is dead.

Both of these batteries appear to have the same rating, (3.7V) and the same 4 terminal arrangement that mates with the connector in the phone. Since I recently replaced my BR56 battery in my phone I decided to try that battery in his. I noted that although both batteries are the same size, the contacts on my battery will not touch the contacts on his phone. It seems that there is a very small raised piece of plastic on his case that protrudes very slightly. There is a very small notch on his battery that the protrusion fits into, and since my battery is lacking that notch it would therefore not make contact with the case.

So admittedly being cheap and not wanting to buy another battery, I removed the protrusion with my Dremel and got the battery to fit in perfectly. I then swapped the Simm cards, (ATT network) and I got his phone working with my battery. I knew that the battery was in need of a charge from the previous indication on my phone, so I plugged the new arrangement, (his phone, my battery) into my charger. I charged it for a day and a half and still noted the battery indication was in the yellow range. On my phone this usually precedes a red indication which means that you're about to lose power. So last night wanting to assess this further, I removed my battery which was still showing yellow from his phone and put it into mine. My phone powered up and showed two green stripes, which is about 60% which indicated more power than the battery indicator showed on his phone. In any event according to the charge indication it certainly did not seem to be in any danger of suffering an eminent power down.

So last night I plugged my phone with my battery into the charger and this morning I took the charged battery out of my phone and put it into his phone. The state of charge indication on his phone was 100%.

So does anyone know what's going on here? Does the phone, charger, or even perhaps the battery itself "know" that the wrong combination of phone/battery is present? Is that what the other two terminals on the battery are there for, to communicate which battery is present and perhaps this adjusts the charge rate? If I have to buy another battery, (the correct number for his phone) I will, but at this point I don't know if this problem is simply an incompatibility between his phone and my battery or the charging circuit in his phone. Lenny

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On Saturday, June 22, 2013 2:26:07 PM UTC-5, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

I've dropped it one too many times and the screen, Which has been displayi ng black blobs for the last few months has now become totally unreadable. I really liked my old Razor and as luck would have it my son happened to sti ll have his old Razor which he gave me. His phone is a slightly different m odel: V3XX(G8/18/19 WC8/19). I have no idea what any of that means, however his phone seems to have more features than mine. His phone takes a BZ60 ba ttery, and the chargers for both phones are the same. However his battery i s dead. Both of these batteries appear to have the same rating, (3.7V) and the same 4 terminal arrangement that mates with the connector in the phone. Since I recently replaced my BR56 battery in my phone I decided to try tha t battery in his. I noted that although both batteries are the same size, t he contacts on my battery will not touch the contacts on his phone. It seem s that there is a very small raised piece of plastic on his case that protr udes very slightly. There is a very small notch on his battery that the pro trusion fits into, and since my battery is lacking that notch it would ther efore not make contact with the case. So admittedly being cheap and not wan ting to buy another battery, I removed the protrusion with my Dremel and go t the battery to fit in perfectly. I then swapped the Simm cards, (ATT netw ork) and I got his phone working with my battery. I knew that the battery w as in need of a charge from the previous indication on my phone, so I plugg ed the new arrangement, (his phone, my battery) into my charger. I charged it for a day and a half and still noted the battery indication was in the y ellow range. On my phone this usually precedes a red indication which means that you're about to lose power. So last night wanting to assess this furt her, I removed my battery which was still showing yellow from his phone and put it into mine. My phone powered up and showed two green stripes, which is about 60% which indicated more power than the battery indicator showed o n his phone. In any event according to the charge indication it certainly d id not seem to be in any danger of suffering an eminent power down. So last night I plugged my phone with my battery into the charger and this morning I took the charged battery out of my phone and put it into his phone. The state of charge indication on his phone was 100%. So does anyone know what' s going on here? Does the phone, charger, or even perhaps the battery itsel f "know" that the wrong combination of phone/battery is present? Is that wh at the other two terminals on the battery are there for, to communicate whi ch battery is present and perhaps this adjusts the charge rate? If I have t o buy another battery, (the correct number for his phone) I will, but at th is point I don't know if this problem is simply an incompatibility between his phone and my battery or the charging circuit in his phone. Lenny

Can you find the ampere hour ratings for the two batteries, that is the fir st step? The fact that both phones agreed on the 100% charge seems like t hings are reasonably sane. I would use the phone for a few days and see if the newer battery in his phone seems to be lasting as long as it would hav e lasted in your old phone. The newer phone may have a higher or lower cur rent demand, so it would be great if things were 100% compatible fine if 90 % the same.

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