MMC vs SD

Feb 11, 2006 19 Replies

‘’ Windows UpTime: 02:38:49 ðÒÉ×ÅÔ, All



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ðÙÔaÀcØ ÐpoÞÉÔaÔØ SD Ðo SPI É ÎeÍoÇy... MMC ÞÉÔaeÔcÑ Îa ypa, × oÐÉcaÎÉÉ cËaÚaÎÎo, ÐpoÔoËoÌ oÄÉÎ É ÔoÔ Öe. Ha ÐpaËÔÉËe Öe, ÐocÌe ËoÍaÎÄ CMD0 É CMD1 Ñ ÐÙÔaÀcØ ÐoÌyÞÉÔØ oÔ ËapÔÙ CID, Îo oÎa ÍÎe Îe oÔÄa£Ô oÔ×eÔ 0xfe, ËoÔopÙÊ ÄoÌÖeÎ ÐpÉÄÔÉ ÐepeÄ ÐoÌyÞeÎÉeÍ ÂÌoËa. åcÔeÔc×eÎÎo Ôa Öe cÉÔyaÃÉÑ ÐpÉ ÞÔeÎÉÉ ceËÔopa. íoÖeÔ ×c£ÔaËÉ y SD ÐpoÔoËoÌ ÞeÍ-Ôo oÔÌÉÞaeÔcÑ?
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Hello, Alexey! You wrote to <All>to All on 11 Feb 06 23:38:48:

AB> MMC ÞÉÔaeÔcÑ Îa ypa, × oÐÉcaÎÉÉ cËaÚaÎÎo, ÐpoÔoËoÌ oÄÉÎ É ÔoÔ Öe. AB> Ha ÐpaËÔÉËe Öe, ÐocÌe ËoÍaÎÄ CMD0 É CMD1 Ñ ÐÙÔaÀcØ ÐoÌyÞÉÔØ oÔ ËapÔÙ AB> CID, Îo oÎa ÍÎe Îe oÔÄa£Ô oÔ×eÔ 0xfe, ËoÔopÙÊ ÄoÌÖeÎ ÐpÉÄÔÉ ÐepeÄ AB> ÐoÌyÞeÎÉeÍ ÂÌoËa. åcÔeÔc×eÎÎo Ôa Öe cÉÔyaÃÉÑ ÐpÉ ÞÔeÎÉÉ ceËÔopa. íoÖeÔ AB> ×c£ÔaËÉ y SD ÐpoÔoËoÌ ÞeÍ-Ôo oÔÌÉÞaeÔcÑ? ðÏÓÍÏÔÒÉ ÐÒÏ ACMD41.

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Hello, Alexey! You wrote to "Alexander Lavrov" snipped-for-privacy@p80.f.n6023.z2.fidonet.org>to Alexander Lavrov on 17 Feb

06 08:50:24:

AB> óÍoÔpeÌ... × ÐpoÃeccax ÂeÚycÐeÛÎoÇo oÂyÚÄaÎÉÑ SD oÔËaÔÉÌcÑ Ë MMC, É o AB> õöáó! éÎÉÃÉaÌÉÚaÃÉÀ Ôo oÎa ÐpoxoÄÉÔ, a ×oÔ ÂÌoËÉ Îe oÔÄa£Ô :( CÅÇÏÄÎÁ ÐÒÏ×ÅÒÉÌ SD × SPI mode. áÖ ÔÒÉ ÛÔÕËÉ ÒÁÚÎÙÈ. ðÏÓÌÅÄÏ×ÁÔÅÌØÎÏ ×ÙÐÏÌÎÑÅÍ CMD0-CMD1-CMD16-CMD17-CMD17... ×ÓÅ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÅÔ. éÝÉ ÏÛÉÂËÕ × ÓÏÆÔÅ.

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‘’ Windows UpTime: 13:36:40 ðÒÉ×ÅÔ, Alexander Lavrov

02 íÁÒ 06 17:19, Alexander Lavrov -> Alexey Belyaev:

AB>> óÍoÔpeÌ... × ÐpoÃeccax ÂeÚycÐeÛÎoÇo oÂyÚÄaÎÉÑ SD oÔËaÔÉÌcÑ Ë MMC, AB>> É o õöáó! éÎÉÃÉaÌÉÚaÃÉÀ Ôo oÎa ÐpoxoÄÉÔ, a ×oÔ ÂÌoËÉ Îe oÔÄa£Ô :( AL> CÅÇÏÄÎÁ ÐÒÏ×ÅÒÉÌ SD × SPI mode. áÖ ÔÒÉ ÛÔÕËÉ ÒÁÚÎÙÈ. AL> ðÏÓÌÅÄÏ×ÁÔÅÌØÎÏ ×ÙÐÏÌÎÑÅÍ CMD0-CMD1-CMD16-CMD17-CMD17... AL> ×ÓÅ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÅÔ. éÝÉ ÏÛÉÂËÕ × ÓÏÆÔÅ. ÉÌÉ × ÖeÌeÚe?

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Hello, Alexey! You wrote to "Alexander Lavrov" snipped-for-privacy@p80.f.n6023.z2.fidonet.org>to Alexander Lavrov on 03 Mar

06 00:02:16:

AL>> CÅÇÏÄÎÁ ÐÒÏ×ÅÒÉÌ SD × SPI mode. áÖ ÔÒÉ ÛÔÕËÉ ÒÁÚÎÙÈ. AL>> ðÏÓÌÅÄÏ×ÁÔÅÌØÎÏ ×ÙÐÏÌÎÑÅÍ CMD0-CMD1-CMD16-CMD17-CMD17... AL>> ×ÓÅ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÅÔ. éÝÉ ÏÛÉÂËÕ × ÓÏÆÔÅ. AB> ÉÌÉ × ÖeÌeÚe? á ÞÅ ÔÁÍ × ÖÅÌÅÚÅ ÉÓËÁÔØ? þÅÔÙÒÅ ×ÅÒÅ×ËÉ CS,CLK,DI,DO, ÐÏÓÌÅÄÎÑÑ ÐÏÄÔÑÎÕÔÁ Ë +ÐÉÔ. ëÓÔÁÔÉ ×ÏÔ, ÍÏÖÅÔ ÐÒÏÉÇÏÄÉÔÓÑ.

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‘’ Windows UpTime: 1 ÄÅÎØ 09:28:13 ðÒÉ×ÅÔ, Alexander Lavrov

03 íÁÒ 06 12:20, Alexander Lavrov -> Alexey Belyaev:

AL>>> CÅÇÏÄÎÁ ÐÒÏ×ÅÒÉÌ SD × SPI mode. áÖ ÔÒÉ ÛÔÕËÉ ÒÁÚÎÙÈ. AL>>> ðÏÓÌÅÄÏ×ÁÔÅÌØÎÏ ×ÙÐÏÌÎÑÅÍ CMD0-CMD1-CMD16-CMD17-CMD17... AL>>> ×ÓÅ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÅÔ. éÝÉ ÏÛÉÂËÕ × ÓÏÆÔÅ. AB>> ÉÌÉ × ÖeÌeÚe? AL> á ÞÅ ÔÁÍ × ÖÅÌÅÚÅ ÉÓËÁÔØ? þÅÔÙÒÅ ×ÅÒÅ×ËÉ CS,CLK,DI,DO, AL> ÐÏÓÌÅÄÎÑÑ ÐÏÄÔÑÎÕÔÁ Ë +ÐÉÔ. AL> ëÓÔÁÔÉ ×ÏÔ, ÍÏÖÅÔ ÐÒÏÉÇÏÄÉÔÓÑ. AL>

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AB> âyÄy ÄoÌÀÉÔØ. á Ñ ×oÔ DO ÎÉËyÄa Îe ÐoÄÔÑÇÉ×aÌ :) ðoÄÔÑÇÉ×aÔØ Ë +3? AB> 300..1Ë ïÍ x×aÔÉÔ? ë +3. É ÎÅ ÍÅÎÅÅ 10k. éÎÁÞÅ ÍÏÇÕÔ ÂÙÔØ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÙ ÐÒÉ ÂÏÌØÛÏÊ ÓËÏÒÏÓÔÉ. ÷ ÐÒÉÎÃÉÐÅ ÍÏÖÎÏ ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ ×ÎÕÔÒÅÎÎÉÍ pull-up-ÏÍ íë, ÅÓÌÉ ÜÔÏ ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ É ÐÏÄÈÏÄÉÔ ÐÏ ÎÏÍÉÎÁÌÕ.

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‘’ Windows UpTime: 1 ÄÅÎØ 22:04:40 ðÒÉ×ÅÔ, Alexander Lavrov

02 íÁÒ 06 17:19, Alexander Lavrov -> Alexey Belyaev:

AB>> óÍoÔpeÌ... × ÐpoÃeccax ÂeÚycÐeÛÎoÇo oÂyÚÄaÎÉÑ SD oÔËaÔÉÌcÑ Ë MMC, AB>> É o õöáó! éÎÉÃÉaÌÉÚaÃÉÀ Ôo oÎa ÐpoxoÄÉÔ, a ×oÔ ÂÌoËÉ Îe oÔÄa£Ô :( AL> CÅÇÏÄÎÁ ÐÒÏ×ÅÒÉÌ SD × SPI mode. áÖ ÔÒÉ ÛÔÕËÉ ÒÁÚÎÙÈ. AL> ðÏÓÌÅÄÏ×ÁÔÅÌØÎÏ ×ÙÐÏÌÎÑÅÍ CMD0-CMD1-CMD16-CMD17-CMD17... AL> ×ÓÅ ÒÁÂÏÔÁÅÔ. éÝÉ ÏÛÉÂËÕ × ÓÏÆÔÅ. ÷oÔ Îa ÄÎÑx ÜËcÐepeÍeÎÔÉpo×aÌ c paÚÎÙÍÉ ËapÔaÍÉ. MMC ÉÎÉÃÉaÌÉÚÉpyÀÔcÑ oÔÌÉÞÎo. é ÄaÌee paÂoÔaÀÔ Îa 10Mhz. þÔo Öe ËacaeÔcÑ SD, Ôo ÔyÔ ×c£ ÐÌoxo. CMD0, CMD1 ÐpoxoÄÑÔ ËaË ÐoÌoÖeÎÎo, ÄaÖee ×c£ ÇÌyxo. ðoÐÙÔËa ycÔaÎo×ÉÔØ paÚÍep ÂÌoËa - oÔ×eÔ oÔpÉÃaÔeÌØÎÙÊ, ÐoÐÙÔËa ÐpoÞÉÔaÔØ ÂÌoË - aÎaÌoÇÉÞÎo. ðepeÐpoÂo×aÌ 3 paÚÎÙx SD. é y ×cex oÄÉÎ cÉÎÄpoÍ. íoÖeÔ SD ËaË-Ôo ÐoÄËÌÀÞaÔØ Ðo ÄpyÇoÍy ÎaÄo? þÔo ÄeÌaÔØ c 2ÍÑ ËoÎÔaËÔaÍÉ, ÔeÍÉ ÞÔo ÎeÔ y MMC? óeÊÞac oÎÉ y ÍeÎÑ × ×oÚÄyxe ×ÉcÑÔ.

é Ðapa ×oÐpoco× × ÄoÇoÎËy:
  1. åÖeÌÉ y ÍeÎÑ ÐoÌyÞÉÔcÑ ÚacÔa×ÉÔØ paÂoÔaÔØ SD. ôo ÄaÌØÎeÊÛaÑ paÂoÔa c ÎeÊ × SPI ÔaËaÑ Öe ËaË É c MMC?
  2. ñ Ðpa×ÉÌØÎo ÐoÎÑÌ, ÞÔo ÐpÉ ÞÔeÎÉÉ SINGLE_BLOCK eÇo ÄÌÉÎa ÍoÖeÔ ÂÙÔØ ÌÀÂoÊ "×ÐpoÔØ Äo 1 ÂaÊÔa" É ycÔaÎa×ÌÉ×aeÔcÑ ÐpeÄ×apÉÔeÌØÎo. þÉÔaÔØ ÍoÖÎo c ÌÀÂoÇo cÍeÝeÎÉÑ, ÇÌa×Îoe ÞÔoÂÙ "x×ocÔ" ÂÌoËa Îe oËaÚaÌcÑ × ÄpyÇoÍ ceËÔope ËapÔÙ. üÔo ÔaË?
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Hello, Alexey! You wrote to "Alexander Lavrov" snipped-for-privacy@p80.f.n6023.z2.fidonet.org>to Alexander Lavrov on 23 Apr

06 20:59:32:

AB> þÔo ÄeÌaÔØ c 2ÍÑ ËoÎÔaËÔaÍÉ, ÔeÍÉ ÞÔo ÎeÔ y MMC? óeÊÞac oÎÉ y ÍeÎÑ × AB> ×oÚÄyxe ×ÉcÑÔ. The 'RSV' pins are floating inputs. It is the responsibility of the host designer to connect external pullup resistors to those lines. Otherwise non-expected high current consumption may occur due to the floating inputs.

AB> 1. åÖeÌÉ y ÍeÎÑ ÐoÌyÞÉÔcÑ ÚacÔa×ÉÔØ paÂoÔaÔØ SD. ôo ÄaÌØÎeÊÛaÑ paÂoÔa c AB> ÎeÊ × SPI ÔaËaÑ Öe ËaË É c MMC? äÏÌÖÎÏ ÂÙÔØ ÔÁË, ÄÁÌØÛÅ ÉÎÉÃÉÁÌÉÚÁÃÉÉ × SPI-mode Ñ ÎÅ ÐÏÛÅÌ. . AB> 2. ñ Ðpa×ÉÌØÎo ÐoÎÑÌ, ÞÔo ÐpÉ ÞÔeÎÉÉ SINGLE_BLOCK eÇo ÄÌÉÎa ÍoÖeÔ ÂÙÔØ AB> ÌÀÂoÊ "×ÐpoÔØ Äo 1 ÂaÊÔa" É ycÔaÎa×ÌÉ×aeÔcÑ ÐpeÄ×apÉÔeÌØÎo. þÉÔaÔØ AB> ÍoÖÎo c ÌÀÂoÇo cÍeÝeÎÉÑ, ÇÌa×Îoe ÞÔoÂÙ "x×ocÔ" ÂÌoËa Îe oËaÚaÌcÑ × AB> ÄpyÇoÍ ceËÔope ËapÔÙ. üÔo ÔaË? äÁ. é ÎÅ >512. SPI mode Ñ ÚÁÂÒÏÓÉÌ, ÎÅ ÕÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÅÔ ÐÏ ÓËÏÒÏÓÔÉ. òÁÂÏÔÁÀ Ó SD-mode. åÓÔØ ÎÅÐÌÏÈÏÊ ÄÁÔÁÛÉÔ, ÉÍÅÎÎÏ ÎÁ SD-card. ÷ÅÓÉÔ 2.2í íÏÇÕ ÎÁÍÙÌÉÔØ.

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‘’ Windows UpTime: 1 ÄÅÎØ 01:18:20 ðÒÉ×ÅÔ, Alexander Lavrov

24 áÐÒ 06 11:22, Alexander Lavrov -> Alexey Belyaev:

AL> SPI mode Ñ ÚÁÂÒÏÓÉÌ, ÎÅ ÕÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÅÔ ÐÏ ÓËÏÒÏÓÔÉ. òÁÂÏÔÁÀ Ó SD-mode. AL> åÓÔØ ÎÅÐÌÏÈÏÊ ÄÁÔÁÛÉÔ, ÉÍÅÎÎÏ ÎÁ SD-card. ÷ÅÓÉÔ 2.2í íÏÇÕ ÎÁÍÙÌÉÔØ. åcÌÉ oÔ SanDisk Ôo oÎ y ÍeÎÑ ecÔØ... ëaË ÂÙ oÄÎo ceÊÞac Îe ÐoÎÑÔÎo. ëaË ÞÉÔaÔØ cpaÚy ÎecËoÌØËo ÂÌoËo×? ÷oÔ ÄaÌ Ñ ËoÍaÎÄy CMD18 ÄoÖÄaÌcÑ oÔ×eÔa. äoÖÄaÌcÑ 0xFE ÞÉÔaÀ ÄaÎÙe. ÷ÄpyÇ ÍÎe ÎaÄoeÌÉ ÄaÎÎÙe É Ñ peÛÉÌ ÜÔo ÄeÌo ocÔaÎo×ÉÔØ. äaÀ ËoÍaÎÄy CMD12, a ÞÔo ÄaÌee? ðo ÔeÍ yÂoÇÉÍ ÔaÊÍÉÎÇaÍ, ÞÔo ecÔØ × ÄaÔaÛÉÔe Îa SanDisk ×poÄe ËaË ÎyÖÎo ÄoÖaÔØcÑ ËoÎÄa ÐepeÄaÞÉ ÐocÌeÄÎeÇo ÂÌoËa (ËaË ÐoÎÑÔØ ÞÔo oÎ ËoÎÞÉÌcÑ? óÞÉÔaÔØ Äo 512?) a ÐoÔoÍ ÄoÖÄaÔØcÑ oÔ×eÔa Îa ËoÍaÎÄy cÔoÐ. ôaË ×oÔ cÔoÐa Ñ Îe ÄoÖÉÄaÀcØ... äa Ñ ÄoÖÄaÌcÑ ËoÎÃa 512 ÂaÊÔo×oÇo ÂÌoËa, Äa ÐoÛÌÉ 0xFF(FF) É ×c£... a ÇÄe oÔ×eÔ Îa óôïð?

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06 22:45:36:

AB> 24 áÐÒ 06 11:22, Alexander Lavrov -> Alexey Belyaev:

AL>> SPI mode Ñ ÚÁÂÒÏÓÉÌ, ÎÅ ÕÓÔÒÁÉ×ÁÅÔ ÐÏ ÓËÏÒÏÓÔÉ. òÁÂÏÔÁÀ Ó SD-mode. AL>> åÓÔØ ÎÅÐÌÏÈÏÊ ÄÁÔÁÛÉÔ, ÉÍÅÎÎÏ ÎÁ SD-card. ÷ÅÓÉÔ 2.2í íÏÇÕ ÎÁÍÙÌÉÔØ. AB> åcÌÉ oÔ SanDisk Ôo oÎ y ÍeÎÑ ecÔØ... Product ManualSDCardv2.2final , 2261Kb - ÏÎÏ?

AB> ëaË ÂÙ oÄÎo ceÊÞac Îe ÐoÎÑÔÎo. ëaË ÞÉÔaÔØ cpaÚy ÎecËoÌØËo ÂÌoËo×? AB> ÷oÔ ÄaÌ Ñ ËoÍaÎÄy CMD18 ÄoÖÄaÌcÑ oÔ×eÔa. äoÖÄaÌcÑ 0xFE ÞÉÔaÀ ÄaÎÙe. AB> ÷ÄpyÇ ÍÎe ÎaÄoeÌÉ ÄaÎÎÙe É Ñ peÛÉÌ ÜÔo ÄeÌo ocÔaÎo×ÉÔØ. äaÀ ËoÍaÎÄy AB> CMD12, a ÞÔo ÄaÌee? ðo ÔeÍ yÂoÇÉÍ ÔaÊÍÉÎÇaÍ, ÞÔo ecÔØ × ÄaÔaÛÉÔe Îa AB> SanDisk ×poÄe ËaË ÎyÖÎo ÄoÖaÔØcÑ ËoÎÄa ÐepeÄaÞÉ ÐocÌeÄÎeÇo ÂÌoËa (ËaË AB> ÐoÎÑÔØ ÞÔo oÎ ËoÎÞÉÌcÑ? óÞÉÔaÔØ Äo 512?) a ÐoÔoÍ ÄoÖÄaÔØcÑ oÔ×eÔa Îa AB> ËoÍaÎÄy cÔoÐ. ôaË ×oÔ cÔoÐa Ñ Îe ÄoÖÉÄaÀcØ... äa Ñ ÄoÖÄaÌcÑ ËoÎÃa 512 AB> ÂaÊÔo×oÇo ÂÌoËa, Äa ÐoÛÌÉ 0xFF(FF) É ×c£... a ÇÄe oÔ×eÔ Îa óôïð? The stop command (CMD12) can abort all data read commands at any given time. The data transfer will terminate and the card will return to the Transfer State. The read commands are block read (CMD17), multiple block read (CMD18), send write-protect (CMD30), send SCR (ACMD51) and general command in read mode (CMD56). é ÄÁÌÅÅ: In multiple-block read mode, the card sends a continuous flow of data blocks following the initial host read command. The data flow is terminated by a stop transmission command, CMD12. The Timing of Multiple Block Read Command timing diagram describes the timing of the data blocks, and the Timing of Stop Command (CMD12, Data Transfer Mode) timing diagram describes the response to a stop command. The data transmission stops two clock cycles after the end bit of the stop command. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Прошу пардона что не по делу, но вопрос уменя. Где берут слоты для SD/MMC?

‘’ Windows UpTime: 17:48:25 ðÒÉ×ÅÔ, Alexander Lavrov

25 áÐÒ 06 11:11, Alexander Lavrov -> Alexey Belyaev:

AB>> ëaË ÂÙ oÄÎo ceÊÞac Îe ÐoÎÑÔÎo. ëaË ÞÉÔaÔØ cpaÚy ÎecËoÌØËo ÂÌoËo×? AB>> ÷oÔ ÄaÌ Ñ ËoÍaÎÄy CMD18 ÄoÖÄaÌcÑ oÔ×eÔa. äoÖÄaÌcÑ 0xFE ÞÉÔaÀ AB>> ÄaÎÙe. ÷ÄpyÇ ÍÎe ÎaÄoeÌÉ ÄaÎÎÙe É Ñ peÛÉÌ ÜÔo ÄeÌo ocÔaÎo×ÉÔØ. AB>> äaÀ ËoÍaÎÄy CMD12, a ÞÔo ÄaÌee? ðo ÔeÍ yÂoÇÉÍ ÔaÊÍÉÎÇaÍ, ÞÔo ecÔØ AB>> × ÄaÔaÛÉÔe Îa SanDisk ×poÄe ËaË ÎyÖÎo ÄoÖaÔØcÑ ËoÎÄa ÐepeÄaÞÉ AB>> ÐocÌeÄÎeÇo ÂÌoËa (ËaË ÐoÎÑÔØ ÞÔo oÎ ËoÎÞÉÌcÑ? óÞÉÔaÔØ Äo 512?) a AB>> ÐoÔoÍ ÄoÖÄaÔØcÑ oÔ×eÔa Îa ËoÍaÎÄy cÔoÐ. ôaË ×oÔ cÔoÐa Ñ Îe AB>> ÄoÖÉÄaÀcØ... äa Ñ ÄoÖÄaÌcÑ ËoÎÃa 512 ÂaÊÔo×oÇo ÂÌoËa, Äa ÐoÛÌÉ AB>> 0xFF(FF) É ×c£... a ÇÄe oÔ×eÔ Îa óôïð? AL> The stop command (CMD12) can abort all data read commands at any given AL> time. The data transfer will terminate and the card will return to the AL> Transfer State. The read commands are block read (CMD17), multiple AL> block read (CMD18), send write-protect (CMD30), send SCR (ACMD51) and AL> general command in read mode (CMD56). é ÄÁÌÅÅ: In multiple-block read AL> mode, the card sends a continuous flow of data blocks following AL> the initial host read command. The data flow is terminated by a AL> stop transmission command, CMD12. The Timing of Multiple Block Read AL> Command timing diagram describes the timing of the data blocks, and AL> the Timing of Stop Command (CMD12, Data Transfer Mode) timing diagram AL> describes the response to a stop command. The data transmission stops AL> two clock cycles after the end bit of the stop command. AL> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Hello, Alexey! You wrote to "Alexander Lavrov" snipped-for-privacy@p80.f.n6023.z2.fidonet.org>to Alexander Lavrov on 27 Apr

06 02:24:56:

AL>> The stop command (CMD12) can abort all data read commands at any given AL>> time. The data transfer will terminate and the card will return to the AL>> Transfer State. The read commands are block read (CMD17), multiple AL>> block read (CMD18), send write-protect (CMD30), send SCR (ACMD51) and AL>> general command in read mode (CMD56). é ÄÁÌÅÅ: In multiple-block read AL>> mode, the card sends a continuous flow of data blocks following AL>> the initial host read command. The data flow is terminated by a AL>> stop transmission command, CMD12. The Timing of Multiple Block Read AL>> Command timing diagram describes the timing of the data blocks, and AL>> the Timing of Stop Command (CMD12, Data Transfer Mode) timing diagram AL>> describes the response to a stop command. The data transmission stops AL>> two clock cycles after the end bit of the stop command. AL>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

AB> ÐapÄoÎ, a Îa pycËoÍ ÉÌÉ xoÔÑÂÙ Îa óÉ ÍoÖÎo? HÁ ÒÕÓÓËÏÍ? ìÅÇËÏ! ëÏÍÁÎÄÁ ÏÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÉ (CMD12) ÍÏÖÅÔ ÐÒÅÒ×ÁÔØÓÑ, ×ÓÅ ÄÁÎÎÙÅ ÞÉÔÁÀÔ ËÏÍÁÎÄÙ × ÌÀÂÏÍ ÄÁÎÎÙÊ ×ÒÅÍÑ. ðÅÒÅÄÁÞÁ ÄÁÎÎÙÈ ÚÁËÏÎÞÉÔÓÑ, É ËÁÒÔÁ ×ÏÚ×ÒÁÔÉÔÓÑ Ë çÏÓÕÄÁÒÓÔ×Ï ðÅÒÅÄÁÞÉ. ðÒÏÞÉÔÁÎÎÙÅ ËÏÍÁÎÄÙ - ÐÒÏÞÉÔÁÎÎÙÊ (CMD17) ÂÌÏËÁ, ÍÎÏÇÏËÒÁÔÎÙÊ ÂÌÏË ÞÉÔÁÅÔ (CMD18), ÐÏÓÙÌÁÅÔ, ÚÁÝÉÝÁÀÔ ÏÔ ÚÁÐÉÓÉ (CMD30), ÐÏÓÙÌÁÀÔ SCR (ACMD51) É ÏÂÝÁÑ ËÏÍÁÎÄÁ × ÐÒÏÞÉÔÁÎÎÏÍ ÓÐÏÓÏÂÅ (CMD56). é ÄÁÌÅÅ: ÷ ÐÒÏÞÉÔÁÎÎÏÍ ÍÎÏÇÏËÒÁÔÎÏÍ ÂÌÏËÅ ÓÐÏÓÏÂ, ËÁÒÔÁ ÐÏÓÙÌÁÅÔ ÎÅÐÒÅÒÙ×ÎÙÊ ÐÏÔÏË ÂÌÏËÏ× ÄÁÎÎÙÈ ÐÏÓÌÅ ÎÁÞÁÌØÎÙÊ ÈÏÚÑÉÎ ÞÉÔÁÌ ËÏÍÁÎÄÕ. ðÏÔÏË ÄÁÎÎÙÈ ÚÁËÏÎÞÅÎ a ÏÓÔÁÎÏ×ÉÔÅ ËÏÍÁÎÄÕ ÐÅÒÅÄÁÞÉ, CMD12. ÷ÙÂÏÒ ×ÒÅÍÅÎÉ íÎÏÇÏËÒÁÔÎÏÇÏ ðÒÏÞÉÔÁÎÎÏÇÏ âÌÏËÁ ëÏÍÁÎÄÁ, ÒÁÓÓÞÉÔÙ×ÁÀÝÁÑ ÄÉÁÇÒÁÍÍÕ ÏÐÉÓÙ×ÁÅÔ ×ÙÂÏÒ ×ÒÅÍÅÎÉ ÂÌÏËÏ× ÄÁÎÎÙÈ, É ÷ÙÂÏÒ ×ÒÅÍÅÎÉ ëÏÍÁÎÄÙ ïÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÉ (CMD12, óÐÏÓÏ ðÅÒÅÄÁÞÉ äÁÎÎÙÈ) ÒÁÓÓÞÉÔÙ×ÁÀÝÉÊ ÄÉÁÇÒÁÍÍÕ ÏÐÉÓÙ×ÁÅÔ ÏÔ×ÅÔ ÎÁ ËÏÍÁÎÄÕ ÏÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÉ. ïÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÉ ÐÅÒÅÄÁÞÉ ÄÁÎÎÙÈ Ä×Á ÃÉËÌÁ ÞÁÓÏ× ÐÏÓÌÅ ÂÉÔÁ ËÏÎÃÁ ËÏÍÁÎÄÙ ÏÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÉ. á ×ÏÔ Ó óÑÍÉ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÁ.

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Почему проблема? Пожалуйста!

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int main(void) { char * str = "The stop command (CMD12) can abort all data read " "commands at any given time. The data transfer will " "terminate and the card will return to the Transfer State.\n\n" "The read commands are block read (CMD17), multiple block read " "(CMD18), send write-protect (CMD30), send SCR (ACMD51) and " "general command in read mode (CMD56).\n";

puts(str); return 0; } ========================

Ни когда не понимал, как можно заниматься программированием, а особенно программированием железа, и не знать английского языка в достаточном для чтения документации объеме! Врядли в магазине найдется книга: "MMC vs SD для чайников"...

ðpÉ×ÅÔ Alexander! Alexander Lavrov --> Alexey Belyaev ( Thu Apr 27 2034, 10:48 )

AL>>> transmission stops two clock cycles after the end bit of the AL>>> stop command. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ AB>> ÐapÄoÎ, a Îa pycËoÍ ÉÌÉ xoÔÑÂÙ Îa óÉ ÍoÖÎo? AL> HÁ ÒÕÓÓËÏÍ? ìÅÇËÏ! AL> ëÏÍÁÎÄÁ ÏÓÔÁÎÏ×ËÉ (CMD12) ÍÏÖÅÔ ÐÒÅÒ×ÁÔØÓÑ, ×ÓÅ ÄÁÎÎÙÅ ÞÉÔÁÀÔ ËÏÍÁÎÄÙ AL> × ÌÀÂÏÍ ÄÁÎÎÙÊ ×ÒÅÍÑ. ðÅÒÅÄÁÞÁ ÄÁÎÎÙÈ ÚÁËÏÎÞÉÔÓÑ, É ËÁÒÔÁ ×ÏÚ×ÒÁÔÉÔÓÑ AL> Ë çÏÓÕÄÁÒÓÔ×Ï ðÅÒÅÄÁÞÉ. ðÒÏÞÉÔÁÎÎÙÅ ËÏÍÁÎÄÙ - ÐÒÏÞÉÔÁÎÎÙÊ (CMD17)

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‘’ Windows UpTime: 1 ÄÅÎØ 03:51:30 ðÒÉ×ÅÔ, Alexander Lavrov

25 áÐÒ 06 11:11, Alexander Lavrov -> Alexey Belyaev:

AL> mode, the card sends a continuous flow of data blocks following AL> the initial host read command. The data flow is terminated by a AL> stop transmission command, CMD12. The Timing of Multiple Block Read AL> Command timing diagram describes the timing of the data blocks, and AL> the Timing of Stop Command (CMD12, Data Transfer Mode) timing diagram AL> describes the response to a stop command. The data transmission stops AL> two clock cycles after the end bit of the stop command. AL> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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