10 technologies that refuse to die

I can agree that a well formed opinion can be a good thing. However, it is also valid to admit to a continued open mind (not in the 'political' sense, but in the 'undecided' sense.) I don't see ANY problem with continued indecision, as long as it doesn't excessively delay or impede someone's life.

Even though I am sometimes passionate, I also *FEEL* that it is valid for me to admit to a lack of commitment, admit to a poorly formed opinion, or even sometimes not even being interested enough to form an opinion.

So, I don't dismiss your intellect or interest simply because you might not have a fully formed opinion on various subjects. Perhaps the most unpleasant and/or least valuable contribution is when an individual has many low quality (poorly formed) opinions, yet is willing to loudly express those opinions. For example, I tend to avoid 'heated' discussions on Usenet unless a claim has hit a 'nerve.' The proverbial 'me too' response in a Usenet discussion is probably just as silly as claiming the success of socialism as an imposed system. (Please, I am not arguing exactly that issue, but my position is that a system needs to be allowed to organically evolve and maintain some kind of equilibrium without TOO MUCH meddling, esp by 'intellectuals' or 'politicians'. Too often, individuals from those groups have motives other than to be 'organic' participants directly in the systems that they wish to control.)

It is better to admit to oneself (and the people in a discussion) when an opinion might be poorly formed or perhaps that the participant is simply not nterested in the subject. On subjects that might not be interesting to the participant, it should be acceptable and natural that the 'opinion' or position is 'null' or weak.

It might be a flaw, or even be slightly dishonest in a pure sense, but I do try to consider the feelings or intellectual depth of various individuals who are participants in a discussion. I feel comfortable when expressing slightly different (but fully compatible and consistent) opinions and arguments depending on the audience. (Children vs. teenagers vs. adults vs. elderly vs. socially conservative vs. socially libertine). I try to make sure that my positions are consistent, but might be expressed differently so that the position is understood to the extent of the ability of the audience. On the other hand, I strongly dislike the kind of 'adapting to the audience' where INCOMPATIBLE or INCONSISTENT opinions are expressed. Sometimes the imprecision of language will cause minor inconsistencies, but our (US) politicians TOO OFTEN make inconsistent assertions and express opinions that are so very different depending upon audience that those speakers can't be considered doing anything other than intentionally telling lies. The better the communication skills, the stronger the opinion, and the wider the gulf between statements, then dishonesty, lack of dependability and capriciousness is strengthened. (Here in the US, those attributes related to prevarication are strongest in the left.)

Bottom line: it is probably more admirable to be humble and accept not having a strongly held opinion rather than to contrive an opinion. Sophism isn't helpful :-).

John

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John S. Dyson
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Yeah, and bumblebees can't fly, and they've reached the quantum limit for the size of a transistor.

Heck, remember when to even _generate_ 2400 MHz you needed stuff like magnetrons? Now they're freaking clocking processors with it. No wonder those puppies get hot!

Cheers! Rich

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Rich Grise

I thought the flaw in that reasoning was known for most of the time since whenever whoever said bumblebees can't fly.

Only time I heard such a thing I heard the limit would be a little over .05 micron between transistor centers on computer chips, with the frequency limit approx. 10 GHz in computer chips with silicon.

I remember silicon transistors for something like 5 GHz in the early

1980's.

- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)

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Don Klipstein

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:21:54 -0700, Jim ButtMunch Gave us:

Both you and "Shit Is His Name" are clueless twits. John RetardGate is bringin' it up the rear.

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DarkMatter

I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Watson A.Name "Watt Sun - the Dark Remover" wrote (in ) about '10 threads that refuse to die', on Thu, 26 Feb

2004:

So many people respond to him that anything I did would not have much effect. I do cut the quoted text to a minimum.

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John Woodgate

I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that Jim Thompson wrote (in ) about '10 threads that refuse to die', on Thu, 26 Feb 2004:

Oh, right. I'll unsubscribe from the group, shall I?

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John Woodgate

OK.

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Rich Grise

-------------------- You're confused. I'm an extreme Leftist Communist.

----------------------- I support the war in Afghanistan and Iraq because I support the destruction of ALL of the several Abrahamic religions and their antihumane Fundies. After we destroy Islam by obliterating it and converting them all to secularism by the sword, we should start on Baptists and Catholics.

---------------------- You're truly confused about what our various positions are or where it comes from. All you grasp is what you were brainwashed to make you uncomfortable.

-Steve

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R. Steve Walz

In reality, the end result of your 'communist' attitudes are similar to anyone with 'statist' attitudes. For the 'little guy' (the average person), the 'communist' type statism, the 'Nazi' type statism, or the 'far-right dictator' type statism or even the Saddam type statism are quite similar. In essense, the practical result of implementing your ideals are a decrease in freedom.

(Rest of your message has been elided.) You certainly continue to prove my evaluation about you that you seem to be narrow minded and intolerant. You are FAR FAR from being liberal, but are extremely doctorinare and probably even conservative to the extreme (in the sense of being rigid and unable to accept other people and their beliefs.)

Thank God (and I am not religious) that as a statist, communist, intolerant doctorinare, you don't make all of the decisions for the rest of humanity.

You are a poster child for the reality of the communist/leftist (and even just leftist) idealogues, where your intolerance for other people's belief shows that even the right wing in the US (I don't mean the far-right skinheads, which also exist in Europe) is MUCH MUCH more tolerant and open minded than you are.

Thank you so very much for helping to back up my observation.

John

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John S. Dyson

----------------- There is NO "State" except the People. Rightists keep getting confused and deluded about that, or else they are merely lying, pretending that the State is some cabal or some entity other than the rest of us just acting in concert. Rightists need to bamboozle people into thinking that the their own Majority is somehow their enemy, when actually the People are only the enemy of the Rich minority who are desperate to deceive everyone to protect their venal and illicit wealth and power.

---------------------- What you're calling the "state" is actually merely dictatorship, which are always of the rich powerful minority, and not Communism or the Democratic People's State, which has never yet existed in industrial nations. Soviet Russia was an Industrial Feudalism, NOT a communism, nor was/is China "communist", both were run by their privileged rich power parties, which were Feudal, NOT communist. Communisms, you see, are Democratic, a don't permit rich minorities! If something does, then it isn't and never was any sort of communism!

--------------------------- Nope, only LICENSE, that of the Rich and Powerful!

--------------------------------- Liberal/Conservative are relative terms, used to describe those in favor of change versus against it, viz European politics. I wish to conserve decent human values, which are not yet well-defended in law. I am also liberal in that I wish to enhance freedoms not now defended. Your commentary is meaningless.

I want:

1) No one to have a right to own more than one home, one they live in, unless later the people authorize the wherewithall for ALL of us to own a summer house or such. We all inherit the World equally from our common ancestors, including their aedifices and facilities.

2) No one to ever have to pay tribute to the rich nobility to have a home to live in without fear of eviction. We are all born equally naked and stupid, and all deserve a home of their own, and should never have to pay another for it.

3) Everyone to be paid the same for any hour of labor which the People authorize.

4) All other property and industry to be owned by the Democratic Majority alone, and for all savings, stocks, bonds, and other instruments of illicit speculation or investment to be destroyed.

5) All people to receive free food, utilities, and medical care as long as they do the minimum number of hours of labor which the People authorize to be done.

6) All other human needs and plans to be made and enforced by the Democratic Majority.

---------------------------- That can't happen, I don't believe in or support a dictatorship.

Only the Democratic Majority can do that, we get and deserve only and exactly the government which we, the People, permit.

------------------------- You Rich Rightist Criminals are always tolerant of the crimes of others, because you want yours to be tolerated. Thieves defending thievery is not surprising. I support intolerance of your crimes, and of those religions and superstitions that are offensive to humanity, democracy, and the freedoms I listed above.

--------------------------- You're a nit-wit who only believes the propaganda the rich have shoveled into your head using school and the media in order to control their slaves.

-Steve

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R. Steve Walz

I read in alt.binaries.schematics.electronic that R. Steve Walz wrote (in ) about '10 technologies that refuse to die', on Mon, 1 Mar 2004:

You are so very far out that you are close to the political point at infinity, where Communism meets Fascism. Witness your views on Arabs.

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John Woodgate

---------------------- There isn't any such thing. That was contrived by the rich western propagandists against communism to explain why Russia looked NOT like a "communism", which ACTUALLY it NEVER was, and instead like a typical feudalist capitalist industrial-serfdom fascism of the wealthy Mafia, which were the Politburo in disguise!

---------------------------- Criminals are criminals. People who want to compromise secular human rights are criminals. It's not about semites, or Arabs, it's about what a person promotes. If they promote a loss of secular liberties: The freedom to be privately or publically sexual, the freedom to inherit from our ancestors a home you can't be evicted from, ever, as one of your many birthrights on this planet, instead of paying monthly tribute to the rich "nobility", the freedom to be paid equally for every hour of your labor to anyone else, the freedom to guarantees of utiltiies and medical care paid for by the People's State, whoever opposes these rights are religious cultists and thieves and they should then be KILLED!!!

If they are another nation and they threaten us, then the Army of the People's Democratic Communism should give them one chance to surrender and then just wipe them from the earth to protect everyone from rich thieving religious tyranny.

-Steve

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R. Steve Walz

Does this mean I can only own 1 BASIC STAMP in this "new world order" ?

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Mike Blankenship

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