Programmable appliance controller?

Does anyone make a programmable appliance controller that can handle fluorescent lights?

I want to be able to program lights so that they always go off at 10 PM but match the number of hours in the local day.

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Jane_Galt
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I'd start looking at

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Not that they necessarily have it (or necessarily the best price if they do) but that's kind of their playing field and they'd be likely to have something if there is one available.

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Rich Webb

X10.

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krw

But not the standard ones

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X10 is getting a little long in the tooth -- though so am I and I'm using a few X10 modules on the incandescents here.

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Rich Webb

I wouldnt buy from them if they were the last ones in the market. They spam me and wont stop it.

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- Jane Galt

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Jane_Galt

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I'm not sure I understand.

Do you mean that you want the controller to always turn the lights on
at something like "sunrise plus one hour" and always turn them off at
10 PM?

What about daylight savings time?
Reply to
John Fields

No, I want them to always go off at 10 PM and be on the length of the local daylight. So, for example, if we have 7.25 hours of local daylight that day, I want them to come on 7.25 hours before 10 PM and go off at 10 PM.

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- Jane Galt

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pay back, Government does NOT "create jobs", it NEVER HAS. It actually 
consumes and destroys the wealth that the private sector, which really DOES 
create jobs, could be using to do so!
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Jane_Galt

A PC, X10, and SMOP.

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krw

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So how do you plan to determine the amount of local daylight on an
ongoing daily basis??
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John Fields

Table lookup. ;-)

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krw

Dawn to dusk sensor?

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Michael A. Terrell

I did a solar panel tracker (prototype) that used this method. Rather than actually tracking the sun, which is affected by glass building reflections, headlights, street lights, weather, eclipses, etc, I just plug in the lat-long, and it crunches the numbers.

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Jeff Liebermann

Good question. If I were a programmer ( I'm not ) I'd use an ephemeris table to pick the number of daylight hours each day and subtract them from

10PM.
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- Jane Galt

By taxing, borrowing and wasting money that the tax slaves must be forced 
to pay back, Government does NOT "create jobs", it NEVER HAS. It actually 
consumes and destroys the wealth that the private sector, which really DOES 
create jobs, could be using to do so!
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Jane_Galt

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An ephemeris is used to locate objects in the sky; what you'd use
would be a sunrise/sunset table:

http://www.usno.navy.mil/USNO/astronomical-applications/data-services/rs-one-year-us


In response to your original question, I don't believe there are
appliance timers out there that do what you want.

It sounds like what you're trying to do is mimic the duration of
natural daylight, indoors, with sundown being hard-wired to 10 PM.

If you're interested I can tell you how to do that.
Reply to
John Fields

Yes exactly. I cant figure how to buy something that does it, it would seem to need a PC and an appliance ( not just incandescent lamp ) controller that could be programmed by it. Kind of expensive.

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- Jane Galt

By taxing, borrowing and wasting money that the tax slaves must be forced 
to pay back, Government does NOT "create jobs", it NEVER HAS. It actually 
consumes and destroys the wealth that the private sector, which really DOES 
create jobs, could be using to do so!
Reply to
Jane_Galt

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Depending on the size of the fluorescent lamp load, and since it's an
ON-OFF situation you're talking about, all you should need to drive it
is a relay or a contactor supplying mains to the ballast(s).

Arguably, the easiest way to do it would be to get a cheap PC running
DOS and then to write a program which would turn the relay on and off
at the proper times via the serial or parallel port.

Another option, of course, would involve the use of a microcontroller
running a program to turn the relay on and off.

In either case, what you'd need to do would be to keep track of real
time and then, using the sunrise-sunset table, turn the relay on and
off at the appropriate times.

Can you say your project's about?
Reply to
John Fields

Pet birds.

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- Jane Galt

By taxing, borrowing and wasting money that the tax slaves must be forced 
to pay back, Government does NOT "create jobs", it NEVER HAS. It actually 
consumes and destroys the wealth that the private sector, which really DOES 
create jobs, could be using to do so!
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Jane_Galt

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