WTB: Heathkit ID-4801 EPROM Programmer

There's one of these on eBay:

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Dear ignorant Google Grouper, None of the groups to which you have cross-posted this have in their names one of the magic words ads biz forsale marketplace

As such, a WTB post is inappropriate in each of them. Here is the charter for sci.electronics.basics

*-*+o=nly-advertise+sci.electronics.basics-Elementary-*-*-*+*.*.*.*.know.enough.*=.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*.*+the.rec.hierarchy+*.*.not.a.forsale.group+zz-zz+Discussi= on which *explicitly* forbids this (though the general rule above already holds for all):

Charles... thank you.

JeffM... thank you for so graciously pointing out my ignorance. You may feel better to know that I am not exclusively a Google Groups user. That said, with 99.8% of the posts to these boards being spam I don't feel too bad about posting a science/computer/electronics related WTB. Nuff said... at least by me. I'm sure you'll take the time to opine more.

He asked for assistance with finding an electronic device. What's more, he got an immediate answer. In fact I am amazed anyone had one for sale these days.

What's the problem JeffM?

Cheers Don...

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You see all that spam, because it is posted by other Google Groopers. Real news servers trap most of it and no one else sees it.

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D>He asked for assistance with finding an electronic device.

If you would like to amend the charter for s.e.b., feel free to propose that. In the meantime, as mentioned, that charter *explicitly* forbids buy-or-sell posts.

If the OP wanted to be *technically* within policy, he could have posted something NOT forbidden and put his request in his sig.

In the meantime, he's a selfish, ignorant, off-topic poster and you are a defender of his aberrant behavior.

Where do we find this charter?

Thanks, Rich

Rich Grise wrote:

Those paying attention would know that it has already been linked in this thread. For others:

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Seems to me like looking for some old computer/electronics-related gear here isn't too far out of line. If we were to start sticking to our charter all the political discussions would go away...

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Did you get it?

/BAH

Do you really spit snot at everyone who is trying to learn the biz? You don't belong in a.f.c; thus, you also have violated something.

/BAH

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Depends on where "here" is. Since I've never seen JeffM on a.f.c before, I assume he's a denizen of c.a.e or s.e.b where the conventions might be different. I agree it's not too out of line on a.f.c, but I wouldn't want to see this NG overrun with buying and selling.

Seems like my post started a firestorm.

While JeffM's response was nothing short of pure rude (which is never appropriate) he is correct that these are not marketplace forums... my mistake.

Sincerely,

Tim

Don, although Jeff is technically correct about the newsgroup charter, I'm with you on this subject. At least his post is on-topic, which many posts in newsgroups are not.

I recall some years ago when I posted a new product press release for my company in this newsgroup, and got blasted by a gentleman who must have been having a bad spam day.

You consoled me as you did Timothy, and I thank you for your common sense.

Now, back to electronics and microcontrollers.....

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According to earlier discussions on a.f.c. personal sales/purchases of relevant equipment is OK.

To be relevant it has to be somewhat connected to computers, and at least 20 years old. There seems to be substantial leeway for newer, recreated systems too.

So, if I want to part with a pre 5xxx series Prime 50-series machine, a commodore 64, a PDP6, or even a brand new PDP10 board, I may post a small advert here.

A WTB heathkit eprom programmer is definatly OK in a.f.c, provided it is followed by at least 4 articles of thread drift.

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For which we are indebted, of course, to our rude friend. :P

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It's been getting overrun with that other shit ever since that guy posted here. I conclude he was a troll looking for new newsgroups to sell to spammers.

IMO, preservation of old knowledge is the utmost importance. We were not in the business to publish mistakes like they do in the science biz.

It looks like the computer biz is reinventing all the wheels again.

[puzzled emoticon here] Shouldn't that be n articles of 4 thread drifts with knots in between?

/BAH

Just elide the WTBs and talk about being interested in finding a foodlyfart so you can play with it.

/BAH

Point. Auld farts learned, early on, to turn bullshit into useful things. I wonder if that's true for all "new" technology.

/BAH