Philips has just announced tiny LPC900 parts in a 3mm x 3mm 10-pin package:
Leon
Philips has just announced tiny LPC900 parts in a 3mm x 3mm 10-pin package:
Leon
-- Leon Heller, G1HSM http://www.geocities.com/leon_heller
does someone pay you for that ? sucker
Pozdrawiam.
-- RusH //
No, sucker, I just thought it might be of interest.
Leon
You should have read Leon's home page. He is giving you all the information there. Such accusation should be avoided in the news group (and not only there).
Heinz
-- Heinz-Jürgen Oertel port GmbH http://www.port.de
Microchip's 10F family is very small also but compared to the LPC900 it is a toy. It is always of interest to this group when a new device is released, especially when these devices address the needs of those in this group. I don't have the luxury of checking all the manufacturers websites to see who has released what, what it is, how much, and where and when can you get it. So I appreciate the "gossip" as it is much faster and easier then surfing and if the poster includes a link, well, it's just so much easier.
While we are sorta on the subject, I don't know why some posters carry on like self-appointed NG police when a product announcement is posted discretely. What is the problem with that??? Even if it is from the manufacturer or distributor themselves, I for one want to know. Aren't many of you on some sort of mailing list from manufacturers??? This is a public forum for computers.architecture.embedded, isn't it?
Admittedly, none of us would want this NG flooded with announcements, but it's not like it's untraceable suck-u-in crap spam either. We users as a "usegroup" get to decide what the netiquette for this community is and that it should always be something that is both beneficial and practical.
If, at some point the commercial interests would like to post freely without thought for flood or content, well let them create their own newsgroup such as comp.arch.embedded.announce perhaps? Why not? I'd subscribe.
Now that I have (hopefully) been helpful will some sucker please pay me.
*Peter*
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yes, repetitive word of mouth advertising is very interesting
Pozdrawiam.
-- RusH // http://randki.o2.pl/profil.php?id_r=352019 Like ninjas, true hackers are shrouded in secrecy and mystery. You may never know -- UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.
So everybody who posts through google is a sucker, me included on occasion (when in the office because of firewall setup) just because of their posting medium. Sounds somewhat nazi to me.
you didnt follow the link did you ? I got plenty of advertising in my mailbox and dont want any press releases on the group. This is not comp.arch.embedded.advertising . I assume that almost everybody got the info from theyr sales rep of catalogue or other source. There is no need for this advertising crap here as well.
Pozdrawiam.
-- RusH // http://randki.o2.pl/profil.php?id_r=352019 Like ninjas, true hackers are shrouded in secrecy and mystery. You may never know -- UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.
Comment #1: There IS a need for appropriate advertising on new ICs that are used in embedded systems. I, for one, want to know about them.
Comment #2: If we assume for the sake of argument that the post in question was undesirable, your "solution" to this situation is ineffective and stupid. Here is the Standard Advice; read and learn.
THE STANDARD ADVICE:
There is a way to influence what gets discussed in a newsgroup that works well, and another way that has never worked no matter how many people have tried it.
What works: Post articles on the topic you wish to see discussed, and participate in the resulting discussion. Use killfiles and filters so that you don't see the articles that you dislike. If you don't know how to use a killfile, use good old fashioned discipline and don't read the articles that you dislike. Never, ever respond to articles that you dislike.
What doesn't work: Respond to articles that you dislike, complain about articles that you dislike, complain about posters that you dislike, complain about how terrible everyone else is for not posting what you want them to post. Talk about how to respond to articles that you dislike. Make the articles that you dislike the center of attention, the main topic of discussion, and a personal crusade.
and you get one in press releases, again this is not comp.arch.embedded.pressreleases
yep
I dont think so
cant argue with that :)
[cut]mostly true, now you read this :
and we are even.
Pozdrawiam.
-- RusH // http://randki.o2.pl/profil.php?id_r=352019 Like ninjas, true hackers are shrouded in secrecy and mystery. You may never know -- UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.
now that looks cool. the leadless HVSON package? was there a picture somewhere? Didn't spot it in a hurry.
Don...
-- Don McKenzie E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics VoIP USB/RJ11 Use Any Phone http://www.dontronics.com/phoneconnector.html USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html
It's also not comp.arch.embedded.askrushifitsokaytopost either.
I learned something from his post ... I hadn't seen any press release on the subject. I might actually have a use for the product.
I didn't take it as an advertisement at all.
You seem to be the only person complaining.
Casey
I did follow the link. I do think the OP was totaly unnecessary. What I do not agree with is stating that the poster is a sucker just because he or she is posting through google (at least so I thought from your follow up).
I see your point. As I mentioned before I think the original post was unnecessary. There are people that disagree with the two of us on this particular issue. I think thare are worse habits around though, other than posting an occasional note on a new component or posting through google which seems to bother some. My "favorite" is messages with hundreds of lines comprised by quotes, sometimes carrying 5 quote levels, whose authors show no consideration for the others that are willing to know their opinions.
Regards.
Elder.
Why do semics companies never include links to tech info in press releases....?
You are right that most do not, but some do and it is slowly improving. There are also those where the press release beats the tech-info by some days
In Philips case, a click on microcontrollers on the news page, now gets you a package note, and from there a click gets you to
but in an ideal world, this _would_ be in the press release....
-jg
Ahah! got it all, document at:
thanks -jg
Don...
-- Don McKenzie E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.e-dotcom.com/ecp.php?un=Dontronics VoIP USB/RJ11 Use Any Phone http://www.dontronics.com/phoneconnector.html USB to RS232 Converter that works http://www.dontronics.com/usb_232.html
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17 January on this NG
Maybe I'm the only one not used to waking up in the middle of the night to talk to some nice telemarketer ?
Pozdrawiam.
-- RusH // http://randki.o2.pl/profil.php?id_r=352019 Like ninjas, true hackers are shrouded in secrecy and mystery. You may never know -- UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.
and the link was to a post about those very same LPC900 parts .. a week earlier on this group
its not about a google posting (why anyone should mind that?), its about advertising
Pozdrawiam.
-- RusH // http://randki.o2.pl/profil.php?id_r=352019 Like ninjas, true hackers are shrouded in secrecy and mystery. You may never know -- UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE.
Sorry. I misanderstood you: thought you meant philips link. The google link just open a mail to in mozilla.
I quit here.
Regards.
Elder.
I don't know what the situation in Poland is, but here in the US telemarketers do not call in the middle of the night. I am quite certain that Usenet posts don't wake people up even in Poland.
Xnews has an excellent scorefile-based killfile system. Why don't you simply filter out the posts that you dislike?
I just checked the last 1,000 posts in this newsgroup, and I see that you have failed to post a single word on the topic of embedded systems. 100% of your output consists of complaining. Your complaints use up more bandwidth than the ads you complain about do.
Here, for the second time, I give you The Standard Advice.
You can ignore it if you wish, but if you do I will killfile you for being a chronic timewaster, and I wouldn't be surprised if others do the same.
THE STANDARD ADVICE:
There is a way to influence what gets discussed in a newsgroup that works well, and another way that has never worked no matter how many people have tried it.
What works: Post articles on the topic you wish to see discussed, and participate in the resulting discussion. Use killfiles and filters so that you don't see the articles that you dislike. If you don't know how to use a killfile, use good old fashioned discipline and don't read the articles that you dislike. Never, ever respond to articles that you dislike.
What doesn't work: Respond to articles that you dislike, complain about articles that you dislike, complain about posters that you dislike, complain about how terrible everyone else is for not posting what you want them to post. Talk about how to respond to articles that you dislike. Make the articles that you dislike the center of attention, the main topic of discussion, and a personal crusade.
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