New Yahoo group dedicated to Forth on microcontrollers

Sorry if I only lurk and never really pop my head up. I've been a bit frustrated at the lack of a group that concentrates more on using the Forth language on microcontrollers rather than the language itself or PCs so I started one on Yahoo groups.

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To be truthful I'm not one to worry too much about the niceties or prettiness of the language, it just happens to be a great machine that can be customized into a specialized machine as needed. Forth is always fun and fast, long live Forth!

32-bit micros with a stack of Flash and RAM are so cheap now and Forth just fits onto these so beautifully compared to the efforts we used to have to go to in implementing them on the little 8-bit'ers. To think that on the tip of even my little finger I can fit a Forth development and runtime environment, wow! Hook up a terminal an go Forth.

I like to build up a repository of information on various processors, Forths, and applications to help promote Forth in the microcontroller world. It's what I love so I ask myself why not put some effort into it?

If you are interested then you are most welcome, perhaps you can share a bit of your Forth or microcontroller experience with all of us.

Peter Jakacki

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Peter Jakacki
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Though I'm not as interested in hardware as I am in applications (exception: SeaForth-40 rocks my socks), any increased Forth exposure and community is great. Long live Forth :)

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Roger

IMO Yahoo groups don't have the wide access and usability of a news group. I see you have found comp.lang.forth. How about alt.comp.lang.forth? Both should have world-wide access.

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CBFalconer

I was just having a good read of the [VERY OT]...know what Usenet is? thread. Hmmm, newsgroups, let's see:

1) Many servers drop posts 2) Sometimes the retention is measured in days 3) Usenet does not cater for attachments very well (plus see item 1 & 2) 4) My BigPuddle cable NNTP excels in it's deficiencies

I have relied upon Usenet since I first got net connected in the mid

90's. Here in Australia it was a real dog just to find an ISP and then I almost had to take out a second mortgage just to get connected on a 14.4 modem initially. Once I started up'ing the modems all the way to 56K I had one ISP that had the hide to charge 45c/MB overlimit, and they used to hit me hard. Imagine paying $450/GB (couldn't download that much), what a joke.

Off topic? Oh yeah, Usenet ain't what it used to be. There is a local newsgroup aus.electronics, what a foul place to visit. My main lurks are CAE and CLF but I think it's the volume of posts that are overwhelming. It would be very very nice if there was a filter so all those post could be condensed into a knowledge base à la Vannevar Bush Memex but not quite so large as a desk :)

Let's see if I can't post weekly condensed reports to stimulate both avenues of information and discussion.

*Peter*
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Peter Jakacki

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I think you need to know about the following:

Some free news servers. I use motzarella and gmane. (1 time charge) (free) (free) (free) (free) (free) (via://dotsrc.org/usenet/)(free) (mail-lists via news) (free) (pay)

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CBFalconer

So set up a Yahoo group and get it gatewayed through gmane so you have a two-way NNTP and RSS feed of the same thing. Works for me.

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Clifford Heath

These are typical newsgroup responses. The OP made a post informing people of a new Yahoo group and the only ones heard from are people who try to convert him to using newsgroups instead of Yahoo!

Yahoo is a good medium. If you prefer newsgroups, fine. But don't expect everyone to like them.

BTW, where in the world are Yahoo groups not accessible?

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rickman

Just don't expect those of us with enough experience to know better to be *there* :-P

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Michael N. Moran

Yeah, I guess you got me good Farva... ;^)

Rick

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rickman

usually it's better to join an existing community instead of creating another. A large community is (usually) more efficient.

I never would try to convert an existing and well performing mailing list to a newsgroup.

But I'm strongly against splitting communities.

Oliver

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Oliver Betz

Why does this have to split a community? I am active in both types of forums as well as mailing lists. None of these are mutually exclusive.

Rick

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rickman

I recently joined the group and hope it does well, I'm also interested in the more practical usage of Forth versus "the fine details of the language".

I'm interested in several embedded CPU's, I have used ATMEL, and MSP430 CPU's programming them in C and Basic. I have interest in somewhat larger chips for projects requiring a little more horsepower. There are quite a few choices I tend to like such as the ARM, PIC32, AVR32, and Coldfire chips they look interesting while being reasonable in cost. But due to the interactive nature of debugging hardware and software I would prefer to use FORTH.

One suggestion though, you might want to consider that new users be on moderation until they post a message that is rational, that will keep the spammers out somewhat.

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Don Seglio

I hang out here a lot, but there is very little about small embedded systems. And by small, I mean something with less than 32k ROM and/or 2k RAM. Oh, and 16bits. Where are the discussions about benchmarks on 16bit systems? How many readers of clf have used a Forth on a system with 256 bytes of RAM? It's fun. I look forward to trying SeaForth but it's probably too fast and uses too much power for what I do.

Yes clf is about Forth, but not what I do. So I welcome another forum. I really like playing close to the hardware.

Gary

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Gary Bergstrom

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