I use all 4 :o) What 'value' are you looking for? I could rank them by price, but I don't think that would be very useful.
IAR have a free code size limited version.
Keil are owned by ARM, so should provide good tools.
Code Red have excellent debug facilities (none intrusive trace, etc.) and the lowest price. I have used their tools extensively in the last month and have been pleased with the results.
Sounds like you might well have a useful perspective. ;-)
Well, purchase and maintenance cost *is* part of the equation, especially before any improvements over the current (free uChip C30) product is proven. As is learning curve.
Given that we're starting with folks used to a WinXP/MPLAB environment with okay debugging features (when it works, which is not always), what's going to be the path of least resistance? Say we need to get a simple motion control app up and running with a bunch of TCP/IP Ethernet messaging (mostly UTP at present)?
Big enough for a TCP/IP stack and a useful program?
Yes, and I don't see any pricing, so $$$$?
That does sound interesting. I see a price of $1K USD for their suite, is that right? Is Codesourcery more than that? Best regards, Spehro Pefhany
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32K is quite generous. The FreeRTOS.org uIP demo fits into the code size limit, the lwIP demo does not. It is a clean professional tool.
Yes. There are no restrictions on use (code size limits, etc.) when used with one of their low cost dev kits, so you can try it out for just a few $$$ by purchasing the dev kit. It is based on Eclipse, with their own fancy extensions, improvements and debug interface. The Eclipse IDE is not so clean and takes some getting used to. The source editor itself has lots of advanced features though. Eclipse is getting more and more popular in the embedded world so time invensted in learning to use it could be well spent.
Don't know. Code Red use the CodeSourcery compiler, so the compiler itself is the same. Take care on license models - if you get a quote make sure its a one time payment.
CodeSourcery provide three options - a totally free download (of the compiler toolchain, library and debugger, including source), a "personal" edition ($400, including a year's worth of updates, which includes Eclipse integration and probably some closed source bits and pieces), and a "professional" edition (pricing not published, includes support).
I don't know anything about Code Red, but it's worth noting that CodeSourcery are the official gcc maintainers for a number of target ports (ColdFire, ARM, MIPS, and possibly also PPC), so that's the road to choose if you want the latest and greatest, and you want support from the people that actually write the code. But for all I know, Code Red could have all sorts of other useful additions - I have no experience with them.
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