I need to make up a reset circuit to reset, on power on, a Z80 (old
40-pin DIP type) and a few TTLs. I don't want to make up some circuit using TTLs and resistors, caps, etc, I simply want to buy an off the shelf part which ONLY requires +5 volts, GND and a wire to connect it to the reset line on my PCB. I don't want to have to wire up other parts to it to get it to work.
Does such a modern part exist?
Thanks
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jamma-plusser
I need to make up a reset circuit to reset, on power on, a Z80 (old
40-pin DIP type) and a few TTLs. I don't want to make up some circuit using TTLs and resistors, caps, etc, I simply want to buy an off the shelf part which ONLY requires +5 volts, GND and a wire to connect it to the reset line on my PCB. I don't want to have to wire up other parts to it to get it to work.
Does such a modern part exist?
Thanks
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Rich Webb
Do a search for "microcontroller supervisor". Microchip makes several flavors, one of which will probably handle your needs.
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
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Jamie
555 timer chip in a one shot config ?
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Jon Kirwan
TC1270 ? Includes a manual reset pin, which may be handy here. Digikey says they are in stock, at about $1 each. Another option, that is if Microchip development tools are already set up and ready, is to use a PIC12F629, which includes a BOR and POR (and WDT), 128 bytes of EEPROM, has a comparator, timer, internal precision clock so an external one isn't required, works from 2V-5.5V, is about 10-15 cents cheaper in ones, probably more readily available as it is in wider use I think, and includes the ability to add other special features. Of course, there is the programming problem. So back to the $1 part for one-off simplicity.
Jon
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Jon Kirwan
Sorry, it's 30 cents more expensive in ones! I had picked up some on a special deal, which isn't available anymore. So that's old news.
Jon
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BobW
Please remember that we're still in a recession, Jon.
Bob
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Jon Kirwan
And will be still, for some time.
Oh, well.
Jon
P.S. What I'd like to see, micro-wise, is a 6-pin SOT23-6, programmable level BOR, good quality POR, comparator, internal vref, 4 I/O (guaranteed high impedance during reset), small EEPROM, 32kHz internal low power (
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Allen Bong
I have came across this chip TL7705 a few times and I think this might be what you've been looking. It has active high and active low reset outputs and just required 2 cap and a 10K resistor.
Industry's Lowest-Power Reset IC Consumes Only 500nA with No External Components Required
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Electronworks.co.uk
also try Maxim:
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Baron
Do it the old way with an RC to the reset pin !
Best Regards:
Baron.
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Michael Black
I wondered about that. I'm too lazy to dig in the box to find a Z80 book, so I wondered if there was something more complicated about the reset. There was a special IC for the 8086, but that included the clock, so who knows. I don't even know where I put the Osborne book that introduces the
8bit CPUs, it should be right in front of me.
But yes, a lot of CPUs just required a temporary grounding to reset. They even included a schmidt trigger so bounce wasn't a problem. That then made it easy for the introduction of reset on power on, just a resistor to the +5v line and a capacitor to ground.
You'd even see that, computers would arrive that required one to press the reset button when power was turned on, and people would write about adding a resistor and capacitor to have it reset on startup. I seem to recall doing that with one single board computer, maybe my OSI Superboard, but I can't remember.
The only way this wouldn't work is if the reset pin doesn't have a schmidt trigger, in which case an external one might be needed, or if for some reason the Z80 needed some more complicate reset system (which seems hard to believe).
Michael
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Baron
Every Z80 I ever had did it with an RC to the reset pin ! It has become more complex since. As you rightly say the X86 also required T to be reset as well.
I don't remember those but I do remember wiring a reset switch to most of the earlier machines including the 8088/8086 and Amstrad 1512/1640 that never had one factory fitted.
I vaguely remember one of the early machines that used to blow up the PSU if you switched it off and on again without waiting for 30 seconds or so.
Agreed !
Best Regards:
Baron.
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Sjouke Burry
Tsssk... A reset only needs a cap and a resistor, what do you need chips for??
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krw
To make the circuit actually reset?
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Michael A. Terrell
It is a real pain in the ass to use that RC circuit, when you have multiple chips that need reset. I have had to add a reset generator to equipment that had been used a few years in the field. The RC reset has a ramp. That means that different chips reset at slightly different points. I had some $5,000 edit suite interface systems for 1" Sony broadcast video tape equipment that had become unstable. I looked at the schematic, and saw a RC reset circuit. The sad thing was that the PC board was designed for a 555 reset circuit they had deleted.
You can\'t have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
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Rich Grise
It's a Z-80, which is really persnickety when it comes to rise/fall times of its inputs. I remember the heroics we used to have to do just to clock the damn thing!
Cheers! Rich
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Lord Garth
Come on Rich, we clocked the baby with a debounced push button! There was nothing to it at all.
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krw
Simple R-C reset circuits are notoriously unreliable. A good reset should be held *AT* reset during all conditions where the circuit may be active (but perhaps not functional) until power is stable. A simple R-C circuit cannot do this.
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