You appear to have forgotten to add a compensation capacitor. At unity gain, you will definitely need one. The output is at positive saturation (it will go to within a volt or so of the positive rail).
I suggest you read the datasheet:
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See figures 8 and 9, read the text.
If that fails, you probably have something miswired.
Cheers
PeteS
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Ban
There are several possibilities:
you blew the input with the high voltage, when the 1k2 was intermittent
your gnd connection is not continuous between the 2 supplies
The op-amp is oscillating, put a ceramic cap 0.1u across the supply pins.
The O/P is capacitivly loaded, put a 220R inseries with the Out and take the feedback from there via 1k, put a 10n from out to +in.
This opamp is very weak in driving higher current (1mA only).
Change the opamp to LT1637, very rugged, DIP8, works down to 3V and has +22V common mode range. It drives/sinks 15mA with a 5V supply and you can shut it off to HiZ.
ciao Ban
Apricale, Italy
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hmm. did you for get to put the 0V to your supply common ? the (-) side?
Real Programmers Do things like this.
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Pete: I checked out the datasheet and added a 56pF compensation cap and the recommended 100K offset null adjustment. The cap helped a bit and brought the output down from 3.97 to 3.6V and the offset null adj helped, but if I adjust it for a given input/output voltage, the output varies with other inputs and doesn't stay linear..
Ban: 1. I haven't blown the input of the 3130. I tried a replacement and the problem persists. 2. I doubled up on the ground connection. (I'm building on a breadboard) I also re-built the circuit on another breadboard, with similar results. 3. As well as adding a 56pF compensation cap, I have a 0.1uF cap across the supply at pins 7 and 4 and an 0.1uF cap from pin 3 to ground. - No change 4. Tried the 220R resistor etc. No change. There is no load on the op-amp except my multimeter. Certainly no extra capacitance. 5. As above, I have negligible load on the output.
I haven't tried an LT1637 as I don't have one on hand. I didn't think I'd strike these problems with a simple voltage-follower. There's almost nothing to go wrong. I tried a '741 in place of the 3130 and it performs beautifully as long as the input voltage on Pin 3 is above 1.9V. (In this application, I need accuracy from 0V to 20VDC input (0-1.25VDC at Pin 3). Maybe both of my
3130s are blown. In my "real-world" circuit, I need two voltage followers and a differential amplifier, so I'm planning on using an LM324. The two voltage followers need to (reasonably) accurately track voltages from
0-20VDC. At all times, one input will be at 0V and the other will be from
0-20VDC and produce an output from the differential amp where 0V on both inputs produces 2.5V output, 0V on the inverting input and 20V on the non-inverting input will produce 4.5V output and if the input polarities are reversed, 20V on the inverting input and 0V on the non-inverting input will produce 0.5V on the output. I already had the 3130 on my breadboard, so I thought I'd try it first, for practice. Didn't expect these problems.
Jamie: The 0V rails are connected correctly. Both the 5V and 0-25V supplies come from the same multiple-output power-supply and have a common ground, so this isn't an issue.
In the morning I'll put the 3130s aside and try my planned circuit using an LM324. Hopefully it will perform the way I expect.
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Don Bowey
Did you look at the output with a scope? If not I'd start there.
Don
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No, I haven't. It's midnight here, so I'll do that first thing in the morning
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Why did you depart from figure 9 on the datasheet? Have you tried it as shown - output tied back to pin 2 through 2K, bypassed by .1 uF?
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I didn't have the datasheet at first. I now have the 2K resistor and cap in place, but it makes no difference. I've been busy this morning, but I'll take a look at the output with a scope shortly.
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Bingo - I just scoped the output - high frequency oscillations. I increased the compensation capacitor's value from 56pF to 150pF and now everything works fine. I also tried 100pF but that wasn't high enough. Thanks, Don
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be careful with LM324s. The rarely work the way one expects, unless you were expecting the Spanish Inquiistion. (Apologies to Monty Python.) They have a flaky output that switches between class A and B
whenever it feels like it, which tends to give huge nonlinearities at odd times. I'd say, try them, and test thoroughly under all the real-world loads they are going to get. If they work, then fine; they are certainly cheap enough. Just be careful.
Best regards,
Bob Masta dqatechATdaqartaDOTcom D A Q A R T A Data AcQuisition And Real-Time Analysis
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