It was not clear if the speaker made sound, or if it really made any noticable difference in output in the first place. I assumed it didn't work at all. Its not really necessary to mend the pieces together. Often a dab of rtv will be all thats needed.
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As the other poster said, your method is a very rough guestimate.
My point, Dumbshit, was that the impedance of a speaker is measured with AC, not DC.
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Phil Allison
"Anahata"
** The term " nominal crossover point" = meaningless drivel !!
Cos the word "nominal" means " in name only ".
In *reality*, a 2:1 impedance mismatch with a x-over filter has DRAMATIC effect on its performance and the load impedance seen by the driving amplifier in the region of the crossover frequency.
** That is utter BOLLOCKS.
Eg An under loaded LC x-over filter turns into a series tuned circuit - it then has a VERY low input impedance at the resonant frequency and MULTIPLIES any input signal by many times creating a huge peak in the response around that frequency. Very bad news.
..... Phil
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It's ages since I ran a plot, so it's a bugger to remember. Note that the cabinet will influence actual AC Z too.
And now you get home hi-fi and especially 5.1 systems where the speakers are actually rated at 6 ohms nominal to extract that extra dB or so.
Graham
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Only with a first order crossover. As the fliter order increases, the difference will be less, but the filter damping suffers, so the response will still be affected.
Not to mention a GOOD crossover compensates for the T-S characteristics of the driver ( especially voice coil inductance ).
Graham
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All the more reason to use active crossovers and bi / tri amping.
Graham
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I once did a sweep of a driver without thinking, cone downwards on the bench. Turning it cone up made a visible difference to the plot. This is because the speaker is doing mechanical work.
Graham
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I tend to use PVA as the glue. More flexible.
Graham
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Phil Allison
"Eeysore"
** Face down, the speaker was being loaded by a ( more or less) sealed enclosure of LESS than 1 litre volume.
No wonder the impedance curve was NOT the same as for "free-air" !!!
The correct procedure for finding the Fs of a driver involves dangling it from the roof on a string.
..... Phil
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William Sommerwerck
You cannot properly measure impedance with a DC device.
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George's Pro Sound Company
VOM read both ac and dc here is how to use a VOM to measure impedance of a unknown but working speaker, it does involve injection of signal
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William Sommerwerck
A multimeter (see above) does not provide that signal.
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George's Pro Sound Company
the multimeter is doing the measurments. I am simply showing that a VOM is a useful tool that can be used to measure impedance
you do not need a fancy occiliscope/signal gen rig a amp passing noise such as between radio stations is sufficent
I use the Part Express /Dayton WT3 for my impedance measuments but years of in feild service to commercialsound system required that i understand how to get the most out of a VOM
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William Sommerwerck
One of the fascinating things about UseNet is coming into contact (even if only at a distance) with people who, at the very least, need someone to talk to.
"Phil" (that's a Hitchhiker joke), do you think I'm actually bothered by your remarks?
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George's Pro Sound Company
I don't know anyone besides you that hasn't killfiled the aussie scumbag george
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Phil Allison
"Richard Crowley = yet another PITA wanker "
** Shame how you and the other two f****it, autistic pedants are 100% wrong in the case of cone loudspeakers.
Nobody needs your posturing BULLSHIT shoved down their throats either.
And nobody give a flying f*ck what idiots like you think.
So piss off.
...... Phil
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Richard Crowley
You are almost certainly correct. They tended to use OEM custom drivers for mass-market consumer goods back in the day (just as is the custom today).
You have not stated any motivation for this. In the likely opinion of most people here, you have a speaker that is not worth any effort to repair.
As others have observed you cannot measure AC impedance with a device that measures DC resistance. And AC impedance is only a small part of the picture. Your chances of finding an exact replacement depend on finding another set of speakers and cannibalizing the driver. Else you have no practical way of finding an exact (or even close) replacement. Fortunately, the speakers likely aren't worth the effort anyway.
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