Windows XP startup question

Did I say that? I don't know how editors handle files exactly, but I'd certainly like to be able to execute a script file that's open in an editor. Seems normal to me and works even with Notepad in XP. At a guess, an editor probably opens a file for writing only when saving. But nvi does something stupid here and there doesn't seem to be an option to fix it.

Yes, I've heard that before. I suppose my problem is programmers don't know this and hence my previously mentioned problem for example. Not that I use much Windows recently.

Most editors in my experience don't hold files open--they just open them when you ask to read or write. Word processors are much more proprietary about it, probably because their nasty binary formats make horrible data corruption inevitable if there's a collision.

There are a lot of bad programmers. Also, there are a lot of good programmers who are made to write code for use by folks who have no concept about files, directories, and so on. Kind of like what happened to the quality of university education when it became expected that everyone could go there.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I started insulating the floor earlier in the week. It was in the 40s and I didn't have any trouble with insulation itchys. When I've had trouble was when I was sweating, hence Winter being a good time to do this job. Your trick is good to know, though. Your trick is good to know, though. I'll try it when I do the rest. My hands aren't where I've had problems before, though.

Sure, you've already applied the soap. ;-) I always take a cold(ish) shower after working with fiberglass.

You were right in mentioning that higher temperatures are part of the problem with handling fiberglass insulation.

Imagine that... me acknowledging you being correct. I'd rather my name were Dexter, because that is the type of "treatment" you deserve.

Taking the cold shower is a bad idea though. The hot environ you were in opened your pores. Taking the cold shower snaps 'em shut. Bad move with glass. Better to let the H2O do its job, like it has for hundreds of millions of years. Go hot shower, keep the pores WIDE open, and let the water blast insure that all your pores get cleared.

A very hot shower, in fact. Practically unbearable. Like 118F.

Your pores swell when you sweat, letting the fibers get deeper into your skin. It drove me crazy, till I learned about the soap trick.

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XP works well enough, not because it's good code but because they debugged it for a couple of decades. It is frustrating at times, but so is Linux.

There are tons of engineeering apps that aren't available for Linux. It's a practical decision to use Windows, not an aesthetic one.

PowerBasic makes it a lot more usable to me. There's no equivalent for Mac or Linux, that I know of.

Why should I change something that's working?

John

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It is free for normal use. Windows multitasks! My two programs don't add up to 1% CPU loading.

Got ethernet switches galore. Tell me about the $45 platform.

John

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Do you have a dedicated/designated IT guy at Highland? Has an effort been made to see if your chosen apps will run under WINE? I note that Mike has had LTspice WINE-compatible for years.

Pretty much. He does some sales support too.

Why would I want to do that? XP works well enough.

John

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Why on earth not? No reason was ever given other than ideology.

In Windows, file handles are really good when you have multiple processes on multiple machines trying to write to the same file on a SAMBA share or NFS. You have to open the file anyway, so there's no overhead, and (unlike mutexes) they work across machines.

How exactly would you implement file locking for a cluster environment? Using lockfiles has the exact same problems as using the data files directly, unless the file system has atomic locking support.

I eventually wound up using file handles wrapped in mutexes. Fuggly.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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That is above my pay scale. Plus there is always the disc latency issue.

Ahhh. But it did work. Not so much the surprise to me.

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No need. You just reiterated clearly for us.

Life is like that sometimes.

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It is, when you use 'regedit'. Just type it into the 'run' box and everything is in plain text.