White Trash: The 400-Year Untold History of Class in America

Oct 18, 2020 72 Replies

Larkin clearly views himself as a "Standard American" (the Platonic ideal of a standard American, no doubt) and thus innately qualified to be final judge and arbiter of what this "common culture" is, exactly.

Bless a man with the humility to admit he is exceptionally average.

ON-topic of your off-topic, I'm reading

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which is heavy going in places but has fascinating data. Your white trash took over the world (and invented electronics) for some really interesting and, to me, unexpected reasons.

There are a ton of graphs showing measured psychological traits (trusting strangers, believing what you see, stuff like that) where the x-axis is the local rate of cousin marriage.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc Science teaches us to doubt. Claude Bernard

So all recipees in your cookbook start with one egg?

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No. They start with either no eggs or two eggs. Zero is considered an even number. My universe tends to favor even numbered things. I find the asymmetry of odd numbers to be somewhat irritating. For example: The Oddo-Harkins rule:

If ask a random person to pick a random integer, they are more likely to select an even number, most probably the number two. In accordance with such numerological observations and guidance, I have adjusted my lifestyle to favor things in pairs or even numbers. I prefer zero, two, or four egg omelettes. My address, phone numbers, and passwords contain mostly even numbers. If you ask me to count to ten, I would most likely start with two, followed by the subsequent even numbers. That's because the starting point, interval, and radix (base) were not specified in the instructions. A real programmer would ask "binary, octal, base 10, or hexadecimal".

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Some might view the phrase "taking over the world" as a pejorative.

"The West" has rarely been afraid to offer what it has to offer elsewhere at a reasonable price, and even more rarely afraid to pull a gun on anyone who turned it down.

Don Corleone was "weird" by a certain standard, too - I'm gonna make you an offer you can't refuse.

ges popular myths about equality in the land of opportunity.

Trump all the way to the White House have been a permanent part of the Ame rican fabric, and reveals how the wretched and landless poor have existed f rom the time of the earliest British colonial settlements to today's hillbi llies.

y nineteenth century and the Civil War itself was fought over class issues nearly as much as it was fought over slavery. Reconstruction pitted white t rash against newly freed slaves, which factored in the rise of eugenics - a widely po..."

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Didn't Einstein marry a cousin?

So now you're advocating inbreeding? It didn't work out too well for wester n civilization.

Osborne 1 was an early luggable PC that was popular with journalists and other people who could dial in to upload data from the field.

It was a bit before my time, the "portable" computer that sticks out most in my memory from that era (was a child at the time) was the sleek Apple IIc.

What I'm advocating is reading that book and thinking.

I suspect you won't do either.

Which means that you found it flattering. Not a particularly sound basis f or advocating it to other people.

Not something you make a habit of. People who do think do tend to disagree with you

Of course you do. You have your own self-image as a thinking person, and wh en other people think about what you have to say, they point out that you a ren't thinking all that competently. You refuse to believe them and decide that they are merely churning out tedious insults, which you can ignore.

Bill Sloman, Sydney

Those graphs show a negative correlation, which you can see just from the reviews.

The point is that cousin marriage rate is a measurable number that is an excellent surrogate for harder-to-quantify things like tribalism and locality. The graphs are amazing.

Lots of things are amazing in that book. But you'd have to read it to learn anything.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc Science teaches us to doubt. Claude Bernard

"One culture, however, is different from the others, and that?s modern WEIRD (?Western, educated, industrialized, rich, democratic?) culture."

Only trouble is that American culture isn't, on average, particularly Western, educated, rich, or democratic. And China does a lot of the industry.

I'm sure it's an enlightening book on Western civilization the point of contention is whether America in 2020 counts as "Western civilization."

America on average seems to pride itself on doing things much differently than everywhere else in what's historically been called "Western civilization" and yet tends to see itself as a Platonic ideal of Western civilization, simultaneously, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

?The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.? - Julius Nyerere

You are sure of lots of things about which you have no need to learn or think or ever consider changing your mind. The book addresses that too.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc Science teaches us to doubt. Claude Bernard

If there's something you learned from it that addresses the apparent conundrum I mentioned in my second paragraph I'm all ears.

Your ears are, and have been, plugged with the highest grade medical sealant.

Bitch you don't even design electronics all you do is post OT s*it for attention, like a 22 y/o girl showing her ass on Instagram.

I've been curious about it at least to read several reviews of the book. A problem that has been mentioned by one reviewer in particular, who seems to be a Christian, is that while the author puts a lot of emphasis on the role of the Catholic and Protestant churches, the author seems to have a limited understanding of Christianity.

"First, his descriptions of the teachings of Christian salvation, whether Catholic or Protestant, only mention following a list of rules to gain eternal life (he talks about this specifically) and never mentions that the explicit teachings of the Protestant movement say that salvation is not based on morality at all. Instead, it is based on God?s grace and Jesus?s sacrifice."

Good, research reasons to not read the book yourself. As Henrich points out, most people assign more weight to others' opinions than to their own.

The unintended influences of the catholic and protestant churches were serious in western development.

It's amazing to go to google street view and check out streets, cars, shops, parks, and houses all over the world. How similar a suburb of Tokyo or Lagos looks like a suburb of Cleveland. I went to a big department store in Ngoya, looking for a Japanese gift for Mo. It was all Levis, Pierre Cardin, western junk. I wanted a Japanese-logo baseball cap for The Brat, but all the team names are printed in English.

The book notes MRI studies that show that distinct brain differences result from west-european derived culture. Not just different processing, but anatomical differences too. As the book says, you have probably already guessed why.

I think the "western brain" and culture are especially well suited to designing electronics.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc Science teaches us to doubt. Claude Bernard

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