What went wrong with America?s $44 million vaccine data system?

Who in their right mind gives a sole source contract to a company with a record $260,276,788 in fines paid since year 2000 mostly for government contracting related offenses:

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Lifetime total of $750,000,000 in past 25 years? answer: CDC result: unbelievable vaccine rollout mess
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Fred Bloggs
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Seems to be working great! Oh you mean at saving lives. No the system's not designed to do that.

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?The health-care software industry is enormous, and it exists lar gely because it?s privatized, it?s not standardized,? says Stone. ?There are a lot of free-market inefficiencies. And the country doesn?t have a public health infrastructure, so there isn?t any real drive to fi x it.?

Yeah, folks gotta love the free-market approach to health care!

And, yes, things get screwed up in Canada's universal health care too...but I can't think of anything as bad as the above.

John

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John Robertson

I can - here in UK NHS-land - the centralised test and trace system that cost considerably more. It was outsourced to the private sector! It's sunk without trace :-)

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Jim Jackson

One of my favourite lines that I only recently heard: "The Purpose of a System is What It Does"

Funnels public money into private pockets without effectively solving the nominal problem it's supposed to solve? That's its true purpose, I suppose.

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Tony Arkles

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Maybe you missed the part about this being an attempt at standardization. T he point is how much misconduct and corruption does it take for the governm ent to permanently bar a business from being eligible for any more work? Th is Deloitte bunch is ridiculous, it's just one huge indictment and fine aft er another with them.

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Fred Bloggs

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The point is how much misconduct and corruption does it take for the gover nment to permanently bar a business from being eligible for any more work? This Deloitte bunch is ridiculous, it's just one huge indictment and fine a fter another with them.

Wrong question. The right question would be "how big a bribe does it take t o get a poorly performing company yet another gig?"

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman

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Fred Bloggs

ith a record $260,276,788 in fines paid since year 2000 mostly for governme nt contracting related offenses:

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n. The point is how much misconduct and corruption does it take for the gov ernment to permanently bar a business from being eligible for any more work ? This Deloitte bunch is ridiculous, it's just one huge indictment and fine after another with them.

to get a poorly performing company yet another gig?"

Hey SL0WMAN, ask the Solyndra felons.

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Flyguy

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It doesn't seem as if there were any. Lots of claims about illegal goings-o n, but no successful prosecutions.

Copper indium gallium selenide (CIGS) thin film solar cells might have look ed like a good idea when the company was set up.

Sadly, between 2009 and mid-2011 the price of polysilicon, the key ingredie nt for most of the competing technologies, dropped by about 89%. This preci pitous drop in the cost of raw materials for Solyndra's competitors rendere d CIGS technology incapable of competing. There's nothing criminal about ma king that kind of mistake. Donald Trump would probably still be in prison n ow if there were.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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Bill Sloman

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ke to get a poorly performing company yet another gig?"

Solyndra was a brilliant and very successful idea, they had booked billions of sales in installations, and their existing installed base was meeting o r exceeding expectations of their customers. And that crummy $500M grant fr om DOE is pretty standard fare as far as development grants go, it's a pret ty average number. The core CIGS PV technology was an NREL development and they were eager to make it succeed, which it was doing. All this success put the Chinese in a panic so they went for broke by reduc ing the price of their panels way below cost, something like 70% reduction. The best technology in the world can't compete against a competitor who's giving his product away. The rest is history, all the orders for Solyndra w ere canceled and they went under. The press started exposing Solyndra as a mismanaged cesspool crawling with clueless bean counter management. That much is true, but it's not responsib le for their failure.

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Fred Bloggs

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ns of sales in installations, and their existing installed base was meeting or exceeding expectations of their customers. And that crummy $500M grant from DOE is pretty standard fare as far as development grants go, it's a pr etty average number. The core CIGS PV technology was an NREL development an d they were eager to make it succeed, which it was doing.

ucing the price of their panels way below cost, something like 70% reductio n. The best technology in the world can't compete against a competitor who' s giving his product away. The rest is history, all the orders for Solyndra were canceled and they went under.

h clueless bean counter management. That much is true, but it's not respons ible for their failure.

Wrong. Solyndra was a massive scam foisted upon the US taxpayer. This is di rectly out of the Inspector Generals report on this sordid affair

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Our investigation confirmed that during the loan guarantee application proc ess and while drawing down loan proceeds, Solyndra provided the Department with statements, asser tions, and certifications that were inaccurate and misleading, misrepresented known fa cts, and, in some instances, omitted information that was highly relevant to key decisions in the process to award and execute the $535 million loan guarantee. In our view, the investigative rec ord suggests that the actions of certain Solyndra officials were, at best, reckless and irrespons ible or, at worst, an orchestrated effort to knowingly and intentionally deceive and mislead the Department.

Obummer decided not to prosecute anyone at Solyndra involved in this half b illion dollar scam, but saw fit to go after Dinesh D'Souza over a $20,000 c ampaign donation with a criminal prosecution.

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Flyguy

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ions of sales in installations, and their existing installed base was meeti ng or exceeding expectations of their customers. And that crummy $500M gran t from DOE is pretty standard fare as far as development grants go, it's a pretty average number. The core CIGS PV technology was an NREL development and they were eager to make it succeed, which it was doing.

educing the price of their panels way below cost, something like 70% reduct ion. The best technology in the world can't compete against a competitor wh o's giving his product away. The rest is history, all the orders for Solynd ra were canceled and they went under.

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billion dollar scam, but saw fit to go after Dinesh D'Souza over a $20,000 campaign donation with a criminal prosecution.

You prosecute when you think you can win. Solyandra was a disaster, and som e of the people involved were slow to realise it. Sadly, incompetence isn't a crime of itself - if it were we could have Flyguy locked up for posting implausible nonsense - and Flyguy is letting his prejudices lead him astray (as they regularly do).

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Bill Sloman, Sydney
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