variable high resistance

Something I was working on recently got me wondering:

Suppose I want to have an adjustable resistance, that will be linear (that is, ohmic) for AC voltages less than 1Vp and audio frequencies. The resistance needs to vary from about 50k to 5MEG, controlled by some other (analog) voltage or current. The relationship between control signal and resistance does not need to be particularly linear or repeatable from part to part.

So far, easy. Now, the slightly-harder part: the power supply is a pair of

3V lithium cells, and to maximize battery life it would be desirable to draw < 100uA or so.

If it weren't for the current spec, I could use an FET optocoupler like an H11F3, I think (not sure if they're ohmic up to 1V at lower resistances, but the datasheet seems to suggest that at these high resistances they'd be okay). But to get one of those down to 50k takes >1mA through the LED.

With higher voltage rails I could just use a JFET. But with 3V rails, wouldn't the Vgs, and the unit-to-unit variation in Vgs, bite me? With only

2V between Vss and max negative signal I'm not sure I can keep the channel from turning on.

I suppose one idea would be to use a charge pump to generate a more-negative voltage rail. Or are there JFETs that will work with these low voltages, without needing to be individually selected for threshold voltage? Or maybe a low-power MOSFET? Any other ideas?

Thanks for any suggestions!

-walter

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Walter Harley
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logic level fets

NT

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meow2222

For a job the other week, I'd graphed the LED current versus resistance for a couple of cheap, Silonix, MSL 37V51 opto-resistors, (Farnell part 316-8785).

(rough values) LED current CdS resistance

0 >10M 8uA 5M 10uA 2M 50uA 100k 100uA 40k 500uA 8k 1ma 4k5 5ma 2k 10mA 1k

regards john

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john

That would work, then.

The circuit is as unsophisticated as you can imagine: it's just a variable load for an electromagnetic pickup in an electric bass. The issue is that, because of the high inductance and DC resistance of these pickups, their frequency response and overall tone (including other aspects such as the amount to which the drag of the magnetic field damps the strings' motion, etc.) depends strongly on the load they see.

Electric bassists (and guitarists) like to able to affect their "tone" in various ways via controls on the instrument. Most modern basses either feed the pickups into a passive tone network, or into an opamp-based buffer which then drives an active EQ section of some sort. Neither solution covers the range of desirable tones; some basses have switches to turn the buffering on or off, or some bassists simply use different instruments depending on what sound they want.

Anyway, I'd been wondering whether making the loading continuously variable, rather than just switched on or off, would be musically useful. But I wanted to be able to get the max impedance higher than what a commonly available pot would do - above 1M, the selection of pots gets small. Thus the question.

For the actual project at hand, it looks like there's not much sonic difference when the load goes higher than 1M, meaning I don't need an active solution at all. So it was more just a matter of curiousity - "if I needed this, how would I do it."

Much appreciated, -walter

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Walter Harley

Thanks, John. That's less current than I thought they would need.

But what's the response time like? ISTR the CdS photocells take a long time to recover to high resistances - I need something that will track pretty close to its final value within 0.1 seconds or less, preferably more like .05 seconds.

Reply to
Walter Harley

There are JFETs with guaranteed pinch-off less than 1.0V available. Just exactly what kind of circuit did you have in mind?- an attenuator?- a VGA?

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Fred Bloggs

time

Slow, yes indeed!. Step from 1k to 1M takes 400ms. regards john

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John Jardine.

How about a semi-digital method?

50K ------+--------/\\/\\/--------- ! ! ! A1 ----- A2 ! X --!>----! Ref !---!>-- Y ! ! N ==============! ! ----- DAC

A1 and A2 are good quality buffering amplifiers. The circuits between X and Y are arranged so that it is non-inverting. When N = 0, the input looks like a 50K. When N is full scale, the input impedance is very high.

If you want a knob the user turns, replace the DAC with a pot the user adjusts.

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Ken Smith

That was the first thing I tried; but it turned into an oscillator (a 21Hz square wave, as it happened). But I had some other stuff going on in the circuit too, that undoubtedly aggravated the situation - if I need to get this working maybe I'll eliminate the extras and give it another try. Thanks!

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Walter Harley

I would consider what is called a transconductance amplifier. I do not know how well they do above about 50 kOhms equivalent though. Generalized immitance converters may be able to do this also. I see that you have some reason for not blindly settling on conductive plastic potentiometors.

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Joseph2k

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