v for frequency?

We can buy that as well. But the mass-market stuff sold in grocery stores and labeled "cheddar" is usually this (or a cheaper knockoff):

Since I'm not a huge fan of cheese, it's ok for my purposes. But I also like imported Gruyere and Parmagiano-Reggiano. I'm not too fussy about Parm: anything from Emilia-Romagna with the DOP stamp is fine. Length of aging is immaterial to me. I'm a little concerned about recent flooding in the area. I'll probably be paying double for Parm in a year or two. I might also have to start eating domestic country ham rather than prosciutto. Or Spanish ham.

The Sartori parmesan, from Wisconsin, is very good. Tillamook cheddar from Oregon is as good as any import.

The US is now making some nice hard-aged gouda now.

Cowgirl Creamery has a couple of great cheeses. The USA is more than Kraft now.

Of course. But we started off talking about mac & cheese in the little blue box.

Only took them 500 years.

They allow larger countries to conquer smaller countries. efficiency rarely cones into it.

Only the ones too stupid, or too poorly connected, to avoid being cannon fodder.

Genocide creates most of the tensions which make "diversity" visible. Killing off people is never a good idea.

Not for all that long, and the ruling class develops even worse habits after a military success.

The US has lot more income inequality than any other advanced industrial country, and - in the US - wealth if more heritable than height.

There are lot of Americans around who a lot more financial ( and consequently political) clout than they deserve, and they use use it wisely. Donald Trump is a particularly blatant example.

"The people that own the country ought to run the country" was the motto from the time of Washington. Nobody quotes the full text "the people that own the country ought to be able to run their country for their own advantage" because why else would you bother to run the whole country?

When?

Not as much of an idiot as the "mininal government crew". There are services that are best provided as a service to the whole population . and the right-wing enthusiasm for "privatising" natural monopolies is pure rent-seeking.

Saki was frequently funny, but never wise.

"Them" ?

I wonder what French or Italian or English cheese was like 500 years ago. I know that many dairy products transmitted diseases.

(In the US, most states require all dairy products to be pasteurized or equivalent.)

I suspect that a minority of europeans could often afford cheese 500 years ago. Malnutrition was usual.

Cheap cheese and expensive cheese are options now. Some people like boxed mac+cheese, especially kids. You have permission to buy or cook something else.

Merkins

Everything transmits diseases dear. gut rot is a feature of all societies that doint know how to avoid it.

We dont require it, but its clearkly marked if you want to isiste onj it

Bread, milk and cheese was the agrarian staple diet. Along with pottage. Its only expensive when city dwellers buy it

Meat was the thing the peasant didn't get much of. A cow produced more milk than it did beef, protein wise.

The cheapest is comparable with the cheapest meat.

Odd, they're all doubling the sheets per roll here.

But do they do triple ply?

What a nasty person you are. Is that standard in the UK?

The USA defines a rectangle 4000 x 5000 miles. It's land area is 4 million square miles with 50 states, 330 million people, a zillion cultures and climates and cuisines, glaciers to high desert, and 20K miles of coastline.

And you obviously stereotype it. That's sure easy.

Please stay where you are and we'll all be happy.

Most certainly not.

TNP does like to be quite an objectionable person, and has decided he has killfiled me so will miss this. As an aside why do those who 'Plonk' think it has any effect on the poster?

Sorry to disagree here but... are you sure you couldn't find a home somewhere in your rather large 'forgotten areas'. I for one would be quite happy for him to find a new home where he can continue to expound his vast 'knowledge' to the few who still believe he has great knowledge and experience in just about anything you can name.

Am 29.05.23 um 16:22 schrieb John Larkin: hem" ?

As our Latin teacher told us more than once, that "caseus" was the ONLY loanword the Romans took into Latin from Germanic tribes.

In contrary, making cheese was THE method of safely preserving milk, other than making butter, which does not use the proteins.

When I was in Nepals > 30 years ago (OMG!) for the first time, I stumbled across a dairy in the Everest region (way from Lukla->Jiri) where they made hard cheese from yacc milk. It tasted like Appenzeller, probably because it was a foreign aid project from Switzerland. Making hard cheese is easy and safe, and it was even with bronze time resources. Just know-how.

I even dared to try a bowl of yacc yoghurt with wild honey there, no side effects. Yummy!

Gerhard

BULLSHIT.

Their block cheddar isn't bad as a utility cheese. The Makers Reserve is good, if you can find it. In this market I get the Kerrygold Dubliner if I want a nice sharp cheese even if it isn't technically cheddar or their Reserve Cheddar if I can find it.

Well, we actually started off talking about the symbol for frequency :)

It took industrialization to create widespread malnutrition, or sometimes outside forces. Ireland was a net exporter of food during the Famine. The beefeaters had to have their beef.

I really don't care what happens to trolls like peeler as long as I don't have to wade through their tripe.

A farm down the road started with sheep but switched to goats and one lonely looking yak. They have a sign advertising goat milk. I've been meaning to stop to get some and also find out why they switched from sheep and if they milk the yak (assuming it's a cow).