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Oh, it's well-known that exposure to high-intensity radio waves has observable and demonstrable physiological effects, some have that for example the various post-natal development syndromes since the 90's are highly correlated to it ambiently, about a perceived reasoning for a "Clean, and Quiet, Air Act", where the "Clean Air Act" was a set of regulatory legislation that can definitely be related to improved outcomes (in health and life).

A simple "death ray" can be fabricated for about $15.

The surface, as it may be, electromagnetic waves in the brain, are yet only that, and matters of resonance theory and as well the redundant sorts of aspects of the brain as electrochemical soup, make that many usual accounts of electroencephalograms are about as advised scientifically as "Scientologists'".

Eh? YOU were the one who invaded SPR with your off-topic complaints,

Jan

Cluck cluck.

I post to s.e.d. Some folks started crossposting to sed and mucked with reply addesses.

Do you design electronics? What do you do?

If anyone is into cryogenics, I'd like to talk about that.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

john larkin snipped-for-privacy@glen--canyon.com wrote or quoted:

|Hertz did not realize the practical importance of his radio |wave experiments. He stated that,[27][28][29] | | It's of no use whatsoever . . . this is just an experiment | that proves Maestro Maxwell was right - we just have these | mysterious electromagnetic waves that we cannot see with the | naked eye. But they are there. | |Asked about the applications of his discoveries, Hertz |replied,[27] | | Nothing, I guess. | Wikipedia page "Heinrich Hertz" (a professor of physics with a Ph.D.)

PS: When I crossposted and followupped to physics groups recently, my intention was to keep off-topic material out of sci.electronics. design. But this might have kind of backfired insofar as it then brought certain difficult people into the debate. So, now I have removed the physics group from the Newsgroups header again as, after all, the above quotation is kind of related to electronics.

If you put your head in a microwave your brain will get cooked. Some unfortunate radar technicians got bits of their brains warmed up enough to do observable damage

Bad statisticians are good at confusing correlation with causation.

So what.

The brain has a lot of electro-chemical structure, but the electrical activity is slow and the associated electromagnetic waves would have enormous wavelengths.

If there are electromagnetic resonances inside the skull they'd be at frequencies way above anything the nervous system could react to electro-chemically, and the electrical resistance of electrically conducting body fluids would damp them heavily.

Any suggestion that anything beyond warming up the tissues involved is going on is a silly as scientology.

Electro-encephlograms are observed at the outside surface of the skull, and don't resolve activity at the level of individual nerves. It's rather like monitoring the activity in a city by looking at traffic density on the motorways.

And here we have a good example of why basic research is necessary, even if it isn't clear from the outset what it's good for.

Jeroen Belleman

I have been told that you can actually hear a high power pulsed radar, (without suffering any damage)

Jan

That 'Some folks' was you,

Jan

John's credulous "curiosity" has lead him to recycle a lot of fatuous climate change denial propaganda on sci.electronics.design

You aren't.

His grasp of what constitutes "design" isn't great.

Some physicists do seem to tolerate pretty dubious electronic design. Review of Scientific Instruments has published some very inept electronics, and I've published comments to that effect there.

Well, that was just an IDEA!

The idea was, that a facility was used inside a building at the BNL site, which had the name '911' (still has!).

Only problem with this theory:

BNL is about 95 km away (roughly east) and is located near Montauk in the Hamptons.

Could have been a little too far away for muons.

TH

No, I only intentionally post to s.e.d.

What do you do?

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

No, I'm usually not a pedant.

But I started this project as a proof, that Einstein's text is full of errors (because it was at the beginning a 'battle' between me and 'Dono', who didn't believe me, that Einstein's text was full of errors.)

So, my aim was to find as many errors as possible.

This was also the reason, why I didn't discuss the actual metaphysical content, because it wouldn't make much sense to do that, after the first error was found.

This is so, because theoretical physics has actually very harsh rules and any tiny error makes a thesis obsolete.

And because I wanted to find as many errors as possible, I had to continue, even after the thesis was already 'dead'.

That sounds like 'overkill', but that wasn't my intention.

That was also the reason, why I had cvommented errors, which are more formal or linguistic.

And because German is my native language, I have some qualification to check for errors in that realm, too.

Sure, but it's a reliable indicator, that Einstein spoke bad German, too (not only bad English).

I was clearly interested in relativity, but not in case of this paper.

My research was not about the ideas Einstein wrote about, but whether or not the paper was correct.

This is actually a requirement, too, especially in theoretical physics.

TH

It didn't make any sense to you, because you don't know much about how language works.

That's the first time I've heard that claim.

From your frankly bizarre point of view.

Or so you tell us.

Modern High German seems to have been invented at Fredrick the Great's court - Frederick preferred French, but he had an empire to build.

At the time low German - mainly Dutch - was the language of publication across northern Europe - and Frederick exploit the absurdities of High German to try squeeze out Dutch publishers. Noah Webster tried to pull the same trick to freeze British publishers out of the American market, but he had less political clout.

He finished his education in Switzerland, and presumably acquired some regional variations.

But you have a strange idea of what "correct" might mean in this context. You'd have hated a 1916 German paper I had to translate for literature survey in my Ph.D. thesis, by Trautz and Dalal. Trautz was the German professor, and Dalal was the Indian graduate student who actually wrote the paper in truly appallingly bad German - a German native speaker said it was the worst German he'd ever seen. The chemistry was fine though the instrumentation was as crude as you'd expect for the period.

But you do seem to be the first person in the thread to post to sci.physics.relativity

I wasn't paying much attention to the newsgroups panel at that point in the thread and probably unintentionally posted follow-ups to both groups too.

Why do you want to know?

I wondered what kind of electronics he designs.

And what do you do?

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

canyon.com

Cal OSHA did exactly one controlled study of rats in a basket, one with radios one without, the ones with radios suffered neo-natally and post-natally and failed the swimming test.

You might know that it's disorienting to sit in front of a car with a loud horn, whether air horn or radar horn.

At least some of the automotive recalls the past years were for cars with unregulated radar horns.

Epilepsy research and simple modern apparatus mass-produced in the cellular phone factor platform, may make for that modern neuroscience makes a lot of wild claims.

The resonance and tuning of radio circuits, including technologies like heterodyne and synchrodyne, then about old-fashioned pseudo-science like biorhythms, can be quite personalized.

Claims of the DOD Polygraph Institute about the detection of veracity or lack thereof are common.

That mean old looking Regenstrief or Riegenstrieff Institute, you'll notice buried among your phone settings many avisos about health related impacts of technology.

The "research" related privacy laws are very self-contradictory.