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Really.

He invented "relative movement" however.

Have you heard of the Mertonian School?

These Oxford scholars like Bradwardine and Swineshead had a "latitude of forms" quite a century or so before.

It can be read from the Vedas' accounts of perspective and projection which is so old it has an originally oral tradition.

Everything else being absolute, then the usual formalisms of things "relative" are due DesCartes the coordinate setting, while as while that's all after the brachistochrone and tautochrone.

Galileo was a key figure in the time of the Reformation and Counter-Reformation as with regards to the usual authorities' accounts of after the Medieval Scholasticism the curated ensconcement of Aristotlean wisdom in the dogma and doctrine of the Counter-Reformation's attachment to the reason and rationality that the Protestant Reformation abandoned with its rejection of Papal Supremacy.

Also he had a simple telescope ground out of glass, had a variety of tautochrone experiments, and made for an account of parabolic motion as a model of power and resistance matters of motion, Galileo Galilei.

Also he talked about things like the equivalency of integers and squares as infinite or about the Galileo's Paradox, while they those alike Robert Grosseteste already had models of aliquot parts and otherwise size relations in the modularity of numbers as after density. So, it's a theme of reductionism, making complicated things simple for being slippery and inarguable.

Not really. They have always been in close contact.

Certainly. The Rhineland, Netherlands to Cologne say, was in many respects a cultural unity, in which people understood each other, until Prussia took over, after 1815,

Jan

This exchange in particular, but there has been more like it. [literal cut/paste] ===========================================================================

You are a naive positivist, I see. Not unsuprising, for an engineer,

Jan ===========================================================================

The point of view that theories are vehicles for encoding observations (economically) is typically Machian, hence naive positivist.

That is *much* better. More explicitly: You need reliable theories about how an experiment works in order to be able to to extract meaningful information from it.

In practice it isn't until several rounds of confrontation between theory and experiment have passed that you can begin to have confidence in both.

That is largely beside the point. (which you are still missing here)

The real point is that the relation between theory and experiment is more subtle and symmetrical than you are assuming. Good experiments may cast doubt on theories, good theories may cast doubt on experiments.

I already mentioned Planck & Einstein (& others) vs Kaufmann. For a more recent example you may take the faster than light neutrinos from Cern to Gran Sasso. More generally, the Standard Model has falsified dozens of supposed 'falsifictions' of it,

Jan

Okay, you have seen the top view of a black hole...

Here is a sideview of a Black hole...

https://x.com/Starmaker111/status/2035119648690356476/photo/1

Restoring the text you chopped.

The delusion here is that it was worth your trouble to go i for such and obvious bit of text-chopping. You've clearly got no idea how foolish this makes you look.

Equally trues of the assertions of the demented half-wit you go to the trouble demonstrating yourself to be.

So what what effects is it being corrected for? And what makes them predictable enough to be easily corrected?

So you are a member of the illuminati who has access to higher knowledge? You wouldn't be posting here if you had anything useful to do and you wouldn't post so much utter nonsense if you knew anything worth knowing.

It's you who is brainwashed - you've scrubbed your brain of any knowledge of the theory of relativity, probably because you share the German National Socialist delusion that it is "Jewish science". That would make it hard for you to develop high-technology products if you were involved in any kind of product development that did anything interesting, but you are much too dim to be doing anything like that.

And you may even believe that fatuous claim.

Sometimes. It can happen faster if you get lucky.

Naive positivism is associated with down-playig statistical limitations.

Than you think that I'm assuming. If you went to the trouble of reading the dozen or so publications I've got in the peer-reviewed literature - mostly comments in the Review of Scientific Instruments and papers in the Journal of Scientific Instruments (now Measurement Science and Technology) you might form a different and better-informed opinion.

Which came down to some idiot not being careful enough about measuring the length of a fibre optic cable. Philosophy might have motivated the careful checking that found the error, but a good experimentalist wouldn't have made the error in the first place.

Good theories are tested all the time - not because people expect them to fail, but because a successful falsification of an established theory gets a lot of publicity.

The cretins who are trying to falsify Einstein's theory of relativity have exactly the same motivation.

The English say "all hands on deck". The Dutch say "alle hans op dak" which is literally "all chickens on the roof" but means exactly the same thing. That's obvious evidence of close contact, but hasn't had any kind of influence on the structure and vocabulary of either language. They are mutually unintelligible.

The cultural unity extended rather farther than that, up into Scandinavia and further across what is now Germany.

As usual you have chopped the text where I explained why I thought that.

He's not famous for it. What makes you think he did? The Vatican certainly wasn't objecting to that when they called him in.

Even such a disgusting piece of lying s*it as you are can't lie non stop, so you once admitted - they correct errors. A clock error is a very classical phenomenon, well known...

The reality is what it is.

No I'm not. You're lying as usual.

who has access to higher

What higher knowledge? That fanatic idiots tend to lie is a higher knowledge to you?

Not just me, for GPS engineers your idiocy was not necessary too. They don't have your urge of onanizing with your supreme understanding and wisdom, they simply want their stuff to work.

you've scrubbed your brain of any

slan·der [ˈslɑːndə] law the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.

An obvious choice of weapon for a relativistic knight on his holy crusade - your idiot guru was also screaming that whoever didn't obey him was a nasty antisemitist.

That

Eat that, you piece of s*it.

There's certainly no visible black hole - a black hole by definition doesn't emit any light. There is a black hole there, as we've known for quite a while, and there's quite a lot of optical activity just above the event horizon, where space is seriously distorted by the gravitational field of the black hole and the mass spiralling in towards it.

A simple question, may I? An observer X is standing on the ground of Earth (anywhere). What is "the speed of Earth from the point of view of observer X" - according to the teachings of your bunch of idiots?

He was writing in 1905, when there weren't any clock accurate enough to have needed that kind of correction any place we could get to then.

As usual you are misrepresenting what I wrote. It would be unkind to claim that you had any malicious motive - you just didn't understand it well enough to realise that it didn't mean what you wanted it to mean.

You do go to a great deal of trouble to make it clear just how stupid you are.

Relative to what?

The "fixed stars" make it clear that the earth is rotating about its axis every day, and we know that it is in orbit around the sun.

We now know enough of the dynamics of our Galaxy to know that the Sun and its planets are in orbit around the centre of our Galaxy, and take about 225 million years to complete one circuit. That means that we are travelling at 230 km/s, approximately 1/1300th of the speed of light.

Our galaxy is on a collision path with the Andromeda galaxy and will probably hit it in 4.5 billion years. The speed along that path is about

I don't have any propriety interest in the astronomers who work this sort of stuff out, and they don't seem to be any kind of bunch of idiots. If you weren't some kind of idiot - or at least less woefully ill-informed, you would have been able to work this out for yourself.

Am Freitag000020, 20.03.2026 um 12:21 schrieb john larkin: ...

Sure, technicians and engineers need good understanding of the principles they use.

But engineers do not care that much about what physicists actually do or worry about.

Engineers worry about their machines and simply do not care, whether or not physics would allow them to work.

If it works, than it's ok. If it doesn't work, engineers try some modifications or something else.

But engineers do not care much about WHY the machines actually work. (They leave that part to physicsts.)

This very similar in medicine:

there exist one kind of doctors, who are happy, if the patient recovers.

the other type wants to know, how this happened and does not regard as a cure, if the underlying principles are unknown.

No, I'm actually an engineer from my education.

Physics is kind of hobby for me.

I had written a few things and the very first was my 'book':

But at least I have something to present.

TH

He was indeed. Too bad for him. And he predicted no clock corrections. And you're a piece of lying s*it too dumb even to keep its lies consistent. Too bad for you. And for your moronic church.

Fortunately, even such a such a disgusting piece of lying s*it as you are can't lie non stop, so you once admitted - they correct for errors on GPS. A clock error is a very classical phenomenon, well known by Galileo, Newton and any

From the point of view of the observer X.

I assume intention and some kind of 'bad physics', which is carefully crafted and force-feed to the defenceless general public.

It had imho started in the mid 19th century with people like Heaviside and Gibbs, who tried to tear down Maxwells theories, which were based on quaternions and 'aether'.

Since then science got deliberatly derailed.

This would require some kind of motivation. and for this there are numeorous options:

time travel real aliens transmutation scalar waves weapons mind control ...

This would have been, if found in real experiments, be regarded as way too dangerous, if common people and common enemies would know about.

So, there was a new profession created: so called 'bullshit artists'.

That was so much fun, that this profession was very attractive to sick minds (from which we have a lot) and common physics got bananas in the mean time.

So, today only very few resist, because that is actually dangerous and would not help the own career.

...

TH