ultra low noise audio design

I'm lookin for infos, bibliography, web sites, manuals etc. concerning ultra low noise electronic design, particularly for audio frequency devices. Any suggestions? TIA :)

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Marantz! About 50 years ago (the time of high-fidelity craze, mono) they came out with a preamplifier that was better than the sensitivity of testing instruments in various laboratories. So reports were coming out with stories but no numbers!

Have fun

Stanislaw.

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Stanislaw Flatto

Elektor has done some designs which use multiple transistors in parallel for low noise.

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Homer J Simpson

"ilClod"

** Keep on lookin' - Mr I Clod the Dickwad.

Since the topic simply does not exist - neither do any publications.

......... Phil

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Phil Allison

Homer J Simpson wrote: : Elektor has done some designs which use multiple transistors in parallel for : low noise.

Parallel coupling does not affect the noise temperature, but I guess the audio guys are groping for a low noise matching resistance i.e. voltage noise. Similar characteristics are desirable in SQUID readout amplifiers ( 1-ohm generator with an effective 10K noise temperature ). The best low-frequency numbers AFAIK come from discrete bipolar transistors such as the SSM2210. One example is the bipolar/JFET composite amplifier presented by Drung et al in Superconductor Science and Technology vol 19 no 5 p S235. Their amplifier has dc-to-50MHz bandwidth, 0.33nV/rtHz voltage noise above 1kHz and 0.8nV/rtHz at 0.1 Hz. I feel this is at the edge of what is achievable with commonly available components.

An easier choice is the venerable LT1028, a number of which can be paralleled as shown in the Linear Tech AN-21 application note. In the SQUID amplifier folklore the LT1028's in a ceramic DIP have lower 1/f corner than the plastic ones. The brand new AD8599 appears to perform equivalently to the LT1028, with better low-frequency characteristics than the good old AD797.

Regards, Mikko

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Mikko S Kiviranta

Mikko S Kiviranta wrote: : no 5 p S235. Their amplifier has dc-to-50MHz bandwidth, 0.33nV/rtHz voltage : noise above 1kHz and 0.8nV/rtHz at 0.1 Hz. I feel this is at the edge of : what is achievable with commonly available components.

I should have said "...*close* to the edge of what is achievable.." before someone points out that the 1/f corner can perhaps be pushed with chopper stabilization, or you can couple even more SSM2210's in parallel, or suggest using ac modulation with a matching transformer (like Koch et al in Rev Sci Inst vol 67 p 2968 - perhaps even that approach can be tweaked into audio use by some quirck)...

But now that I think of it I suppose Drung could make more money by selling his amplifiers to audiophiles as turntable moving-coil preamps than selling them to the SQUID community. Surely everyone initiated can hear a clear difference between a 20MHz and 50MHz roll-off.

Regards, Mikko

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Mikko S Kiviranta

With regard to using FET's in low noise audio designs you probably can't go past Erno Borbely's designs.

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Ross Herbert

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