Totally OT: How many Caucasians have been shot in the similar circumstances as Tami Rice or Martin Brown

Not being in the US of A I couldn't speculate, but I did see one statistic I found illuminating: 93% of African/Americans shot to death are shot by ... African/Americans.

"Authorities are formally investigating whether Michael Brown's stepfather intended to incite a riot last week when he urged a crowd in Ferguson, Miss ouri, to "Burn this bitch down" after the grand jury's ruling was announced , the city's police chief said Tuesday."

Make that Tamir.

Most people are shot by people they know, usually family members or relatives. If you are black, you have black relatives, so your odds of getting shot by a black person are high. Most white people are shot by white people. As you know, just having a gun in the house makes you more likely to be shot by a gun. [Hint: use a gun safe]

Most of the murder-suicides in the US are done by whites, especially the ones where the guy wipes out his entire family.

However, the question here is what are the odds of being killed by a cop, not shot in general. About 25% of the justifiable police homicides are white cops shooting blacks. But blacks are not 25% of the population.

No ,they are reputedly 13%. If you look at their representation in crime and incarceration stats (where they are "over-represented" in both) the 25% "outcome" is far from an aberration.

Someone suggested only using black cops in black districts. Apart from the "racist" uproar, I wonder what this would do for outcomes.

Black alone + mixed (which one would assume are mutually exclusive) are 22% of the population.

And they commit a way disprportionate percentage of violent crime.

There are various sociological reasons for this, but, when things get down to law enforcement level, that is not a consideration.

Down here, the police have gone out of control. "To serve and protect", my sainted aunt. That doesn't mean that it's okay to trash innocent people's property, as in St Louis (especially since the grand jury seems to have got it right there).

It does mean that the anger in St Louis is very understandable. The Staten Island grand jury made a very serious mistake, despite graphic video evidence, which hasn't helped one bit.

The two cases are as different as those of Edward Snowden and Julian Assange.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Maybe you need to review the video. Garner was a classical case of resistin g arrest. The chokehold story is a total fabrication. The LEO used a neck l ock to leverage Garner onto the ground, he was not choking him, and the nec k hold was removed as soon as Garner was prone on the ground being cuffed. At that point his airway was unobstructed which is visually and audibly bor ne out by the video and his ability to speak clearly. What did him was his ill-health and the fact that at least one large sized cop was applying his weight through his knee into Garner's upper back, a standard restraint proc edure. You couldn't ask for a more polite handcuffing than they gave him. C ops can really mess you up getting those cuffs on, breaking bones and drawi ng blood. They treated Garner with kid gloves. There was no crime committed here.

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Ya know, it is hard to die when being treated with kid gloves. Just sayin'.

And you do know Garner's death was classified as a homicide. It made all the papers.

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There wouldn't be any cherry picked data involved in the report would there?

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Those tweets are bogus, a bunch of undocumented made up stuff by activists.

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Garner was heading for sudden cardiac arrest at any time, the excitement an d scuffle pushed him over the edge. The idiot MSM doesn't know what a choke hold is, it is not administered by placing a bent elbow joint with one arm over the airway, that move actually protects the airway. A chokehold intent ionally blocks the airway by placing the wrist joint directly on it, joinin g that hand with the other hand and pulling the two back with high pressure to force the airway closed. In this incident, the officer protected the ai rway with the elbow joint until Garner was on the ground, also protecting h is skull from hitting the sidewalk when he fell, and then he released. This is all clearly visible in the video. He treated him with kid gloves.

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