Timed Power Cut-Off Circuit

Jun 30, 2006 5 Replies

Hi everyone,



I've got a burglar alarm that works off a 12V transformer. The only trouble is when the alarm is activated via the system it doesn't stop until the system code is entered into the keypad.



I'm wanting a circuit I can cut into the 12V siren feed (from the alarm unit) that will shut the alarm off after 20 minutes but will re-set when the voltage feed from the system is finally lost. It has been along time since I looked at electronic circuits so any advice would be greatly appreciated.



I have worked with 555 timers before. Could a monostable 555 timer be used for this application?



I'm looking for a not too overly complex solution that I can easily put together myself using breadboard.



Thank you for your time.



Regards, Mark Hodgkinson



What DC supply voltage do you have available in the alarm box and what does the signal to the siren look like?

John, Thanks for your prompt reply which is appreciated.

To fill you in on the problem I've got here's the story:

To provide tamper protection the actual external siren is controlled by a relay in the external alarm box (i.e. if the wire to the box is cut the relay drops and a battery in the box powers the siren). Trouble is, this circuit no longer works because I'm not getting any power from the main alarm control box associated terminals to keep the relay up so the siren sounds continuously.

Because my system is over 10 years old, I don't want to get a new system on the grounds of the above system fault and the fact that it is virtually impossible to get into the alarm box without great difficulty, I've decided the tamper feature isn't critical and I want to power the siren direct from a separate set of terminals I've found that give around 13.66V across them when the alarm is activated.

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I\'m not sure I can, at this point. That is, I\'m confused. In your first post you stated that you can turn the siren (I\'m assuming that\'s what the "alarm" is) off by using the system keypad, but in your second post you stated that the siren runs continuously because of some problem in the control box. Which is it??? BTW, please bottom post. It makes everything so much easier to follow for whoever\'s reading the thread. Thanks,

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Sorry to have confused you. I think I'm telling you more than is necessary so I will try to be percise.

The siren did run continuously because of some problem in the control box. To get over this problem I have done some re-wiring and have directly connected the siren to a set of terminals which give a +12V on alarm activation. Previously the siren was connected via a tamper relay which activated the alarm when the relay was down (i.e. power was lost). This relay was powered via a different feed from the control box. It is this feed that is faulty.

Anyhow, the circuit I'm wanting is simply a timer circuit which can be cut into the 12V siren feed. The circuit needs to provide a 12V output to sound the siren for approx 20 minutes after a 12V input supply is provided and then cut-off (i.e. provide a 0V output). The timer should be re-set when the 12V input feed is lost (i.e. after the code is entered into the keypad).

The basic problem I've got is that my alarm doesn't stop until the code is entered but if no one is home it may run for days if not weeks! There is a possible fine of up to =A32000 ($3700) if an alarm runs more than 20 minutes.

Regards, Mark

The circuit is posted on alt.binaries.schematics.electronic and emailed as well since you can\'t get to abse from Google.

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