This Is Why You Don't Want Populist "Leaders"

The problem is that some people (like politicians and economists) think they know how to run a society and an economy. Those things work best when no-one runs them.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
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virtuous, educated people....

Modern conservatism is just a death-cult driving luxury pickups; strutting around proudly doing whatever the opposite of a good idea is today because they have been "masters of their own destiny" so long they've become bored with the job, and Orange Man telling them what to say and do (and that behaving like a toddler in an adult body is OK) is a welcome relief from the ennui.

Find some reopen-now protest parades and play count-the-Escalades, can buy a $70,000 SUV and they don't think they're free? what percentage of the worlds population could buy a luxury SUV? You have he freedom to buy whatever you want that 97% of the world's population could never have and you want....more?

Yeah, I imagine they think they're "fighting" for something. real rebels that they are. The "centralized fat-heads" hang real rebels they don't give them permits to hold parades.

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bitrex

Wow, you are bitter.

What do you drive?

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
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jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com 
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John Larkin

A car with about 12 airbags, the roads are filled with "masters of their own destiny" making it up as they go along

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bitrex

Woodrow Wilson also (grudgingly) agreed to legislation prohibiting children under 16 from being put to work in coal mines which I'm sure has frustrated the coal industry and many silver-spoon-born, doctor's-son Conservatives ever since.

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bitrex

The founding elites routinely referred to the common man as "rabble." That doesn't sound like they had a whole lot of confidence in their ability to self-govern.

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Never learned to drive?

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 
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Or more briefly, the Trumper-fashion of hoi polloi's main gripe with "centralized fat-cats" sometimes seems to be that they're still using taxpayer money to hire police and judges to lay the law down on other types of people, and even after 4 years they still don't hand out licenses to Trumpers to go out and gun down enemies-of-the-state for free.

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bitrex

Mr. Larkin, this line of questioning reminds me of my first dates with female lawyers.

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bitrex

There were times when everyone in a family had to work to earn enough to survive. That 16 yo kid may have had 7 younger kids at home.

What changed things was technology, productivity.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

Science teaches us to doubt. 

  Claude Bernard
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jlarkin

Even lady lawyers are wary of hypocrites.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

Science teaches us to doubt. 

  Claude Bernard
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jlarkin

How could you possibly know that? Or, should I say, why do you think you know?

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whit3rd

It's the police and judges who are enforcing stay-at-home orders, not me. I don't have the ability to make any one of the dissenters do any damn thing. They want free? Go be free. and see how far that lil blue-line sticker takes them.

I always said police and military-worship was a bad idea but if the fan club has a beef with their superstars they should take it up with them directly.

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bitrex

As if that was some law of nature, like in the late 19th century there just wasn't enough money available in circulation or something.

In the case of the coal industry and others labor unions formed after the workers eventually got tired of the "fat cats" taking 90% of every dollar made and riding the 20th Century Limited thrice weekly while their own children often went hungry.

For this anti-productivity attitude on behalf of said fat cats they got imprisoned, beaten, stabbed, bombed, airstriked with chemical weapons, shot by mercenaries, police, and Federal troops, and in time the owners eventually capitulated.

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bitrex

Money? They just didn't print enough?

You can't eat money. No population can consume more than they create, at least for long.

The idea that kids can produce nothing, eat and travel and party, all the way through grad school and then some, is a side-effect of technology-driven wealth. Kids used to be expected to help their family as soon as they could. They grew up fast.

The fat cats didn't eat a lot in absolute numbers. If they had cut their caloric intake in half, it wouldn't have fed many poor people.

Unions took often-violent advantage of the productivity created by technology, at the expense of the non-union population. They got more for themselves, to better compete with others for food and housing, and they usually reduced productivity, which also cost others. In more modern times, they destroyed entire domestic industries.

What fat cats did was invest "excess profit" and compete, which did increase productivity to the public benefit.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

Science teaches us to doubt. 

  Claude Bernard
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jlarkin

Just compare countries. Even most communist countries have realized that they should let a sector of their economy loose to try things at random. North Korea and Venezuala don't appreciate that and people starve. China and Viet Nam and Russia (and to some extent Cuba) have mostly figured that out. The more a government controls the economy, the poorer the people are.

And many of our the biggest technology innovations didn't come from government labs or universities, they came from individuals, often lunatics, often college dropouts.

Think about how many expert-informed gigabuck government programs have failed, or worse.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

Science teaches us to doubt. 

  Claude Bernard
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jlarkin

Why only think of that? Why not think of failures of individuals, lunatics, often college dropouts? Blinders don't help your vision.

And, the measure to be watched is not the failures (those are lost in history) but the successes. You haven't made any kind of case for the small-team/individual effort against the long-term/large-team sorts of things that get government funding.

Notably, there aren't any useful vaccine prospects for COVID-19 that don't have large teams at work right now. Historically, public efforts in health (vaccination) and technology (radio, Internet, Web), transportation (railways, highways, harbors, maps) have been successful as efforts with input other than "individuals, lunatics, often college dropouts", although any human effort does indeed have those component parts...

Jenner came up with a vaccine. The Balmis expedition, with royal sponsorship, made a public health initiative out of it. The team, the fleet, the years of teamwork were not a minor part of the innovation's success.

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whit3rd

You think he is bitter now....wait until they open up the economy and the death rate does not spike.

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blocher

Oooo, that would be a downer.

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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc 

Science teaches us to doubt. 

  Claude Bernard
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