Shannon and the brain..

That test of sentience is easy to pass; a battery, a button, and a buzzer. Come to think of it, that would describe DimBulb.

So, how does a soup of proteins form a living, presumably intelligent, organism?

Sure. We are maybe 2% of the way to understanding how a cell works. Certainly not enough to simulate the human brain "at the molecular level."

Starting.

Somebody else has to know it, so I can use their parts. Nobody knows how the brain stores memories.

John

No grumpy growling ;)

Jamie

Why would you say that? The Standard Model correctly predicts all sorts of quantitative facts about the universe. It works.

John

Just trying to do my part!

Jamie

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax:

So what? The final output will always trascend those useless details.

John Larkin:

Yes theyn do. No, they cannot forecast its behavioiur. That's not ignorance, since there's nothing to be known.

Thaìt contraption. Other ones are certainly able to do it right now.

Yes, I did.

Bill Sloman:

AKA known as "commonsensical".

You get yours from communist eco-terrorists, evidently.

This is really an idiotic phrase.

Sometimes say they can predict weather in 10 years from now. But they can't do it for a week from now.

Think with your own head.

No, maybe better not.

John Larkin:

Because you can't.

Should I recall you that "God does not play dice"?

But that quarrel is moot. Quanta work at their level, supoerchords at another, gravity at yet another.

Bill Sloman:

And then?

What about the sequencing the expression of proteins? If you produce the same amount of proteins at the same time, you get a pile of scum, not a working cell.

We are at the very beginning of understanding, and this, probably, is another instance of a phenomenon that is the simplest model of itself.

I really can't stand you bigots. Of both sides.

Perhaps because of age related damage? Most of the neural tissue of the brain is redundant, as much as 90% judging from some cases of (IIRC) normal functioning hydocephalics

That's because they were discussing resolution and used newsprint as an example.

The case of this thread, dipshit. The reference was to ALL pigs, so it refers to ALL cases.

Catch a clue yet?

You missed the point. The Larking dumbfuck is forever pissing and moaning about me, making claims that I cannot perform math.

No shit. I don't need a primer.

No bits at all. It is an entirely different pair of dimes.

Wrong. He was re-energized. So, those were NOT his last words.

HAL's last words were during the ignition of Jupiter by monoliths as a newborn star in the sequel "2010: The Year We Make Contact"

His last words were whatever part of the transmission he was suppose to deliver until he could no longer do so. Whatever point at which THAT transmission ceased.

Nice try though.

You are as stupid as dimmie. Thanks for the proof. You better see a doctor about those infected blisters on your palms before you lose both hands, and have to learn to type with your nose.

No need for the battery. His filament is open.

I don't know about that. It does make noise when you push it's button.

You're just shaking the broken ends till they arc. Little, tiny arcs. Hench the name DIM bulb. :)