Receiver sensitivity BER. The lower the better?

Hi All,

In communication, the BER is the lower the better, right?

Best regards, Boki.

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Boki
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Generally, yes -- BER = Bit Error Rate, and fewer errors are better.

Most real systems are designed to operate with a given BER or better, so from a certain point of view achieving a BER well in excess of what's necessary is most likely a waste of resources, but no one's ever going to complain if you can deliver a better BER without spending more money.

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Joel Kolstad

Joel Kolstad =E5=AF=AB=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A

How about Bluetooth?

When I get BER =3D 0.01% ,so I reduce my power to make BER close to 0.1%

so I can get less power consumption, does this make sense? ( I don't know answer )

Best regards, Boki.

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Boki

Nope. The optimum is best, and the system designers have to decide how to define optimum.

-- Mike --

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Mike

Hi Boki,

When I get BER = 0.01% ,so I reduce my power to make BER close to 0.1%

so I can get less power consumption, does this make sense?"

I don't know the particulars of Bluetooth, but from Googling around it looks like the spec says that you are supposed to achieve a BER of 0.1%. Hence,

*so long as you can achieve that BER at the distance required*, saving power looks like a win.

If you build your hardware such that it has this "power-save" mode available, you can always make this issue their problem by telling them you want them to drop into power-save mode whenever the BER is 0.1% or lower, and otherwise run at the higher power -- this is a very common technique.

---Joel

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Joel Kolstad

Thanks : )

Best regards, Boki.

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Boki

What BER you can live with (and I deal with Bluetooth every day in my products) depends on what the link is being used for.

For voice data which can not be retransmitted (well, it could but there would be no point) you want as low a BER as possible. I am talking here about links that do not operate at much higher speed than necessary but a typical bluetooth synchronous (SCO) link which provides a 8K frame rate where the frames are to be pushed / pulled directly to / from a codec.

For the asynchronous data (ACL) channels, if your datarate is low and you embed CRC/checksum in the data you can simply retransmit the data if you can't live with errors in the serial datastream.

Voice links are rated at 1E-6 BER for 'carrier grade' status, incidentally.

You will start to notice significant degradation in a bluetooth voice link at 1E-2 BER. 1E-3 (0.1%) gives understandable and fairly clear voice links, at least in my experience.

Cheers

PeteS

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PeteS

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