Re: Petty White Nationalists

Whoey Louie wrote in news:d31800e5-0d46-4cba- snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

You do not get it. The person's ill raised mentality is the root cause. The alcohol is merely yet more stupid decisions. Jocks get mad when they almost grow up and find out they wont be getting a path to jock hero superbowl stardom. Some of them 'move on' to become our ill waistline cops. How quaint. Some of them are so poorly raised they get mad when 'the ol lady' doesn't have dinner ready and waiting when they get home from work.

Little white supremacists act the same way. They get mad when their ideal world is not attained. After they spend their jail hours talking about how they are superior and making lists of the reasons why their uptopia has not been realized. Look at Trump. He tried that manipulative crap with the mob and they pushed him right out of NJ and the casino business. Half the stupid shit he pulls is because he is mad and his hate filled world did not coalesce. He is the most dangerous one in the nation. His word and actions cost lives and more than anything Hanoi Jane ever said or did.

The problem with both is that they think it is OK to lay their hands on people. That is the whole problem. Nobody out there knows that rule apparently.

That's another lie, I never said any such thing. You posted:

And I replied with:

"That's clearly wrong too. Many of the shooters have been on drugs for mental illness. Adam Lanza (Sandy Hook), and Cruz (Parkland School), Dylan Roof (Charleston Church) for example. We know the Dayton shooter suffered from bipoloar disorder, so he likely was taking drugs or should have been."

ROFL

That's a good one, coming from you. I frequently have to show you what you actually posted, like I just did.

while you are clearly and merely still on your personal

Ain't that special coming from the guy that created this thread, "Petty White Nationalists". Nuff said.

I'll add that to the running file of your threats here. We're getting close to where it's worthy of getting the police involved. And isn't it ironic that you're here pontificating on mass shootings, violence, the causes, when you're the only one here that ever makes threats of violence and you do it frequently?

As if it was that simple. Many of these shooters, maybe most, have been raised "Patrick's actions were apparently influenced and informed by people we do not know, and from ideas and beliefs we do not accept or condone." "He was raised in a family that taught love, kindness, respect, and toleran ce ? rejecting all forms of racism, prejudice, hatred, and violence ."

Maybe so, but it's still a factor and alcoholism isn't something easy to overcome. And as I cited, many of these shooters have been on prescription drugs for mental illness. Is that a stupid decision?

Jocks get

Again with the jocks? Sounds like you have some experience and issues there.

Wow, from jocks to white supremacists, to Trump?

Half the stupid shit he pulls is because

Sounds like you're describing yourself.

Who is it that you're alleging Trump laid his hands on? And ain't all this special, coming from the only guy here who makes online threats? If you wound up shooting up someplace, why people would be saying, all the warning signs were there, why didn't someone do something?

Only because of the mafia, and they didn't shoot random people either. Individuals did not do mass shootings with any kind of weapon until recently. Nobody has explained why.

It was a lot more than the mafia, Bonny and Clyde, Machine Gun Kelly, Pretty Boy Floyd, Dillenger, for example. Those types were using full autos too.

That's true, they didn't usually shoot random people intentionally at least. Some were caught up in the crossfire though. That's similar to what goes on in the bad inner cities, eg Chicago today. Most of that gun violence it's gang bangers, drug dealers, etc going at each other, but many times some innocent bystanders wind up dead too or instead.

There has been mass murder going on even a hundred years ago, but it was at much lower levels than what we're seeing now. There are probably a lot of root causes, but my guess would be the internet has a lot to do with it. Thirty years ago, if you were a little bit off, had some bizarre dystopian views, what could you do? Subscribe to some wing nut monthly newsletter? Now you can be instantly in contact with all kinds of nuts, promoting all kinds of crazy, nasty ideologies, all kind of conspiracy theories, that will encourage you, make you believe that what you're thinking is right and normal. It's how they get people from normal families in western countries to join ISIS. Not to hard to imagine that it also inspires some into acts of violence. The question is, what we can really do about it.

Well what else would the family say "he was abused constantly?"

Self-reporting by the family after the fact isn't of much value I don't think. Dysfunctional, abusive families can disguise themselves quite well particularly if they have money to throw at the problem.

I knew a number of guys who had pretty messed-up family life in primary school but it only became apparent years later when they got themselves into trouble or in happier cases they tell you at the 20 year reunion they don't talk to their father anymore.

John Larkin wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

You are nuttier than a fruitcake.

You are shit, fortified with shit, spewing shit.

Your mother should be put in prison for failing to flush you.

bitrex wrote in news:TD33F.154157$ snipped-for-privacy@fx04.iad:

Remember "tot mom"?

Yeah, nobody thought she was that great a person to begin with I don't think. There'll be more of that for sure in those states where they want to make abortion a crime though I don't suppose the people who think it should be figure there's any difference.

sun rises.

Dressing 5 year girls up like adult beauty pageant models and shit and having them parade around in front of pervs for $$$ there's an activity that should be made illegal

They usually talk about folks being on Meds, but fail to mention if they stopped taking them. I know for a fact that can trigger events, perhaps worse than not taking any Meds at all.

Greg

gregz wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-septembe r.org:

Pretty sure that the Sandyhook shooter was a former ritalin recipient. I think that was all though.

do not know, and from ideas and beliefs we do not accept or condone."

erance ? rejecting all forms of racism, prejudice, hatred, and viol ence."

Sure, they could be lying. You have any evidence they are? With all the reporters digging, you'd think some stories would be coming out by now. I haven't heard anything. And there have been plenty of other mass shooters where there was no indications that there was any abuse.

I don't deny that can be an important factor, just that it's apparently not the only factor. And there are plenty of people who grow up in less than ideal homes who don't become violent criminals too.

"abuse" is an elusive thing to quantify it doesn't always involve your stereotypical alcoholic parent who likes to beat the stepkids.

Pampering, doting, "special-snowflaking", helicopter-parenting, allowing a child too much autonomy at too young an age, throwing money at the kid and buying lots of gifts/being an unconditional provider, lack of discipline or ever doing "tough love" and laying down consistent punishments for misbehavior, not requiring the child from time to time to face the consequences of their actions, etc. can also be considered a form of abuse

Yep. What actually causes the "criminal mindset" and why a "mindset" in some cases progresses to terrible crimes and in others it never does, how much of it is environment and how much of it is genetics/nature has also been elusive since the times of Jack the Ripper and Arthur Conan Doyle and before

my parents divorced when I was 14 and my home life was much much less than ideal, it never lead me to violence though as a young man I was certainly angry about the situation quite a bit. As I got older and had other more positive experiences that anger faded and I took it less personal. my experience was not unique sadly it happens to many many other young men, I did nothing to deserve it, it was just bad luck.

If anything it's possibly part of why I got interested in engineering, for the same reason other guys I know who come from similar situation work on tuning cars and engines, provides a center of control and sanity in otherwise uncontrollable circumstances